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Are you thinking this in order to get more flex? I think that would work in theory. I don't see why not!

I am making my own frame and it is 32.5" OC stem to stern. So I have to move in the perches on the rear.
 

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Inboarding works real well for added flex. Check out John's Toyota on the Mountian High toys site. If I remember correctly they are inboarded 5" on each side, Chevy springs and his own home brewed missing link.

Anyway, after seeing his rig work, I'm sold.
 

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Originally posted by SquirrelMaster:
<STRONG>I think its a trade off of flex for stability. I'm starting to build more for a stable rig with good flex. </STRONG>
STABILITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why in the world would you want that!!!!!!!
Isnt it cooler to have somthing with gobs and gobs of travel on a ramp, and can't drive even the steightest of dirt roads!!!!

Good man S/M, I was starting to think I was the only one.
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Narrowing the springs, or widening the axle, should get similar results. If your worried about stability on the road, add a stabilizer with QD's. I know when I asked this ? over a year ago, I got my butt fried. But I still think it would work. Of course, I'm also putting my shackles in front on my SAS <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0">
 

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I inboarded the rear springs on my XJ once a while back, only a couple of inches on each sice.

I HATED the result - it ruined the ride out of all proportion to what you would think. I even used a rear sway bar, and I still hated it.

I mucho glad I moved them back - much better,
 

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Originally posted by BillaVista:
<STRONG>I inboarded the rear springs on my XJ once a while back, only a couple of inches on each sice.

I HATED the result - it ruined the ride out of all proportion to what you would think. I even used a rear sway bar, and I still hated it.

I mucho glad I moved them back - much better,</STRONG>
Did the rear axle "twist" horizontally and give death wobbles, or what was the problem?
 

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Where the hell have you been I did this last year! This combination rocks! Gobs and Gobs of flex! I am running Chevy's in the rear moved in 4" on each side!! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
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Drew, you might not remeber this truck, cauz three years ago on the Forth of July when you Showed me out of the Rubicon is was a tiny little black yota on 33" boggers! By the way this set-up works awsome. Flex'z way out! You have to get rid of the fuel tank though! I put in a 16gal. fuel cell in the rear where the spare tire used to go! Just for added fun I built new cross members! I thought that I would see more people doing this during summer, cauz everyone who noticed what I had done wanted to copy it! So far this summer in my 9+ trips to the con and fordice I have not seen anyone else with this done! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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or what was the problem?
The problem was the excessive body roll I couldn't control.

It "flexed" well for sure - but it was unstable and uncomfortable. I drive my rig on the road too - and it was spooky - coming around a tight off-ramp was a religous experience.

Even on the trail, I found it too tippy to be comfortable - when the rear wheels encountered a rock or obstacle the whole truck would tip uncomfortably. I think there's a big difference between controlled usable flex and just plain unstable.

For me, on my truck, it didn't work - for others it may.
 

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For me this isn't really a problem! Body roll on the road is somewhat bad, but not to the point that you feel you will tip over! I think it works well and am glad that I did it!
 

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Just extra bracing! and they look cool too! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> I put them there to keep the new x-member from tortional twisting, I just build everything tooooo beefy!
 

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i've been thinking about doing this for a few weeks now, how did you make the crossmember jeremy? also, does the type of spring you use make a difference? and you said you used a fuel cell, where did you get it and did you mount it between the springs, or in the bed?
 

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I mounted it under the bed where the spare used to go! I built brackets and all the needed bracing! It is a 16gal cell from Jegs.
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