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I received this message from the Cummins rep:

"According to our records, the standard 6B5.9 engine weighs 942 lbs. dry and depending on the oil pan capacity, you should add about 45 lbs. for fluids.
Length 40.02 in.
Width 32.44 in."

How much does a 2H weigh and what dimensions it is? I know that a 2F weighs in around 650lbs. I would think the 2H would weigh more due to the higher compression ratios needing thicker-walled engines.

I have a lead on a Cummins diesel for a good price. Would love to make it work in a Cruiser.

(It's so wierd though, the Cummins engine does not look that big in the truck engine compartment)


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There's a guy in Northern CA that swapped a Cummins into his FJ60 and is thinking of marketing the conversion kit, supposedly it turned out really well.

AFAIK, the 2H supposedly weights at least 200 lbs. more than the 2F. That's what I've heard, anyway.
 

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The 1HD-T (6 cylinder) is about 725 pounds. The 2H, would be the same. The cummings (Dodge) is 1,000 pounds, very high torque, and may destroy the frame of a cruiser. The 5.9 is too much engine for the whole driveline.
Also, new 24 valve injection pumps are $8,000. The Dodge to buy is the 12 valve 1995-1998-still very mechanical and not electronic.

and Henry-
I thought the 5.9J-60 was in El Paso for some reason?
 

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i would definitly do the Cummins
killer power great gas milage
you can bolt a Nv4500 to it or a 727
In consideration of the frame take a look at a stock dodge frame open C 1/8in
look at a cruza frame boxed 1/8?
i wouldent trust the stock axles to much more than street driveing though

just my 02
 

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I was not too worried about the frame. I was worried about the axles.
The engine that I am looking at comes with an NV4500 and an NP205 case. Strength shoulf not be a problem.
Now the axles, I would obviously have to go with Dana 60s or better.
Ohe well, I appreciate the replies.

What about springs?

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the motor trans set up you are looking at is more than likely a 93 on back. if it doesn,t have the intercooler is a 91 1/2 and back. these motors are heavy and have a lower pressure injection pump. but you will still have more torque than you know what to do with. they are also noisy. i have had a alot of dealing with the cummins and like them alot. but i don't think they would make a good trail rig. the trans behind that motor is a greteg i think, very expensive and not the best reliability. but a good low first gear. it would be a cool swap but i think the rattling on the big climbs would be real pita. you couldn't here your spotter for shit if he is in front of you. i had a chanch to buy a complet/beat 92 model the other day and did some serious thinking. i just don't think it would be a good trail rig. but it would make a bitchen tow rig. my 2 cents mike
 

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well if it is a nv4500 behind it stock
its not a 93and earlyer
the springs should be ok you might want to add some sorta adaleaf to the front and a anti rap bar in the back
were are you geting this good deal
cuz i really need a Nv4500 to Replace my pos Getrag in my 92 dodge
and the cumins would be great in my Fj60
 

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Are you sure that the NV4500 was not offered in the 1991-92 series in front of an NP205? This looks just like the same transmission that was on Advanced Adapters page.
This truck is the 350 one tone truck. It has a dana 60 front, and a dana 70 rear. Let me know if there is a part number or something that I should be looking for.

When was the series that they started making the new body style on the trucks?

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NV4500s did come with the Cummins full time until late 95 I believe. There are a lot of them that have dumped the Getrag and switched to an NV4500. My friend has an early 95 that was originally a Getrag and now has an NV. I would stay away from an auto in this application. They always seem to go about every 70,000 miles.
 

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NV4500 is still available. The 6 speed is
an option on the current models.

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check out diesel.com for some better perspective on the cummins engine. They do have their share of gremlins.... <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce2.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/eyemouth.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/eyemouth.gif" border="0">
I looked into this and realized if i was going to go diesel it would be a toyota and probably end up saving you in the long run to boot.
 
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