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Hey picked up what I thought was a dana 60 and once I took it apart I found out it was a Dana 61. I've researched all about the Dana 61 and noticed it sucks to be me. Does anyone know if the spacer still exists in order to shim my 4.56 w/Detroit in this housing? Randy's is closed today and I need to see if I have to go back to the guy who sold me the axle.

Til then my Jeep build is in holding pattern.

 

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A Dana 61 what, front or rear. If your looking for a solutoin if its a rear just find a 14 bolt with 4.56's. Very commen to find and all the beef you need.

If its a front then just get the ring gear spacer.
It still has the same beef as a 60 front, just different offset on the pinion head to accomadate higher gears like 3.31's and 3.07's.
This is why you need the spacer to go over 4.10's, I think thats the highest you can go before the spacer is needed.

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This is a Dodge front axle, sorry. It doesn't have the larger tubes so that's what threw me. I've been searching all over and not a lot of clear answers plus Randy's along with everyone else is closed today.
 

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How much did you pay for it? If it was me I'd have been on the phone to the seller a long time ago.
Why? its still the same axle as a 60 and probally a little better since all the Dana 61's ive seen have the internal flange hubs like the chevy, unlike 85% of the external flanged Dodge hubs.

And theres no real way to tell the difference unless you see the 61 stamped on the housing or run the BOM. And lets be honest, when you go to look at a front end do you look for those? I really dont, I check the gearing and conditoin.

The gearing would of been a good sign, unless it had 3.55's or 4.10's. But if it had 3.07's or 3.31's theres your sign. To the OP I wish you were closer I would trade you DRW chevy for a SRW 61 in a second.

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This is a Dodge front axle, sorry. It doesn't have the larger tubes so that's what threw me. I've been searching all over and not a lot of clear answers plus Randy's along with everyone else is closed today.
We NEED some picture of this axles, LOTS please.
 

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This is so extreme!
This is a rare Dana axle, and so interest me.
If pictures are posted I'll use them, as I've never been able to find one.


Where is your extreme tech?
- You are just padding your posting numbers with that reply.
 

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This is a rare Dana axle, and so interest me.
If pictures are posted I'll use them, as I've never been able to find one.


Where is your extreme tech?
- You are just padding your posting numbers with that reply.
I'll take pictures of the axle once I get it back from the gear shop. I don't care about padding my post, do I win some thing for higher post (maybe 1 Million Dollars).
 

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Because being a Web Wheeler is so cool... right :shaking:
Dude, you've no clue.


I'm not going to post my resume; I've done plenty for my local 4x4 community and those who are involved are the only ones I'm need to impress.
 

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only ones I'm need to impress.
Dude, I'm not trying to ridicule you.
I just think it's halarious how the number of post mean something around here.. and please don't post your resume, I wouldn't want to spell check it...I'd probably get a head ach. :grinpimp: cheers
 

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Because being a Web Wheeler is so cool... right :shaking:
WhatThaFackOver???

I don't personally know Mr. N from Adam. I don't know if I have ever posted in one of his threads. I don't know if he and I have ever argued about anything, or agreed on anything.

But I damn well know for sure that he has done more to catalog the innerworkings of how Dana decides to build a friggin axle than Dana themselves. Thousands of wheelers (webwheelers and real ones) have used his EXTREME-ly hard-sought information to make sure they build their shit right.

Not sure where you are coming from here, but after you post up a website and get the real information on a few dozen hard-to-sort out dana axles, you might understand why Mr. N wants pictures of this particular axle so damn bad.

Until then, sit down and shut up while the men are talking.
 

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Dude, I'm not trying to ridicule you.
I just think it's halarious how the number of post mean something around here.. and please don't post your resume, I wouldn't want to spell check it...I'd probably get a head ach. :grinpimp: cheers
Quoting before post gets changed or deleted.
 

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Hey picked up what I thought was a dana 60 and once I took it apart I found out it was a Dana 61. I've researched all about the Dana 61 and noticed it sucks to be me. Does anyone know if the spacer still exists in order to shim my 4.56 w/Detroit in this housing? Randy's is closed today and I need to see if I have to go back to the guy who sold me the axle.

Not sure the spacer will work with a full case type of locker (Detroit in your case). I have personally used the spacer in question
, it does not work. It needs to be thicker. That being said, check out this write up on the Dana 61. My buddy Chase answers most any question you may have. My advice if you're dead set on using that 61 is to use the carrier listed in the article, add spiders, weld them up and call it done.

Article:Dana 61
Tech:
Most of the rears are the big spindles and can run 35 spline shafts without being bored, not all check them to be sure before getting to involved! Most of the 61's we have seen come with 3.07 gears, in order to run the 3.07 gears and fit the monster pinion head in there dana changed the offset of the pinion by changing the housing not the carrier. Dana 61's did however come w/ 3.55, 3.73 and 4.10 gears. The best advatage to these, they are cheap b/c the Q of whether or not they can be geared is a bit mystical. And the good news is they can be regeared!
Gearing:
This is how you get one to work. There was a a dana 60 spacer made by Reider that allowed you to run the lower ratio gear ie 4.56 and up. I believe this spacer was 5/8 thick. It required the 4.56 and up dana 60 carrier and the ring gear spacer to get the offset needed. This said spacer seems to be just a legend now and has been discontinued. However their still is the Mr. gasket dana 60 spacer (5/16 thickness) that just about every drivetrain company sells. This spacer is designed to allow you to run the 4.56 and up gears on a 4.10 and down carrier for a regular 60. This spacer does come into play but need not be confused w/ the legendary Rieder spacer, they are of different thickness.
Alas there is a dana/spicer Dana 61- 3.33 and up carrier part# 706400x. This carrier is 2 3/4 tall. Where as the dana 60 4.56 and up carrier part# 706041x is 2 7/16 tall. So what combination do you need to run which gear ratio? If you have a dana 61 that has 3.07 gears in it and you want to run 3.33-4.30 gears, you will need to run the dana 61 3.33 and up carrier part# 706400x or the dana 60 4.56 and up carrier with a 5/16 ring gear spacer. This is popular for people who are trying to regear a 3.07 dodge cummins and the like front 61 that has a non overdrive auto, If you switch to a manual or to an oerdrive auto transmission, you will likely want some lower gearing that is how you get it.
If you have a dana 61 with 3.33 or higher gear ratio all you need is a 5/16 ring gear spacer to run 4.56's and up.
If you have a dana 61 with 3.07 gears and you want to go to 4.56 or numerically higher gear ratio you will need to purchase a dana 61 3.33 and up carrier part# 706400x and a 5/16 ring gear spacer to achieve the desired offset. Or have a 5/8 ring gear spacer custom machined. This is popular for the guys trying to score a cheap front or rear 60's and gear it for offroad use.
 
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