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Besides the obvious! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

And are all IFS frames the same from '86 to '95??

I know the '87-88 cabs look just like the '84-85, so I'm guessing all the mounts are the same.

And hell, as long as I'm here... is there a D44 I can swap in an '86-up Toy without having to cut it down??
 

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you deprived old man <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> , what do you have up your sleave this time? nother frame swap? Any way YES the cab mounts are the same from a 84-88 truck. In 89 the frames got longer (51") rear springs and updated body componts and frame due to the avalible V6 option. Hope this helps. BTW how did you all do at GWNF last week end????
 

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Umm Dude when i posted the first time i had no idea what happened. MORE PICS PLEASE of the carnage. I think some one on the ttora said
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If the frame is cursed im getting rid of the drivers fender, hood, and bumper. all those things came froma flipped truck after i flipped mine. Watch me do it too.
 

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Oh and one more thing, what are your plans for the truck now? junk the body and frame, find a IFS truck and sas it? custom tube buggy? Info man info, btw if you are selling any thing like your cross over or something let me know. btw want me to post a couple pics or are ya gonna show camo how to really flip a truck?????
 

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Christ Mike! Here I thought I had 3 responses to a post on POR. <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

The truck is pretty F'ed up right now. I have no idea what I'm going to do yet, have to see what I can find. Going to go check on a 4Runner tonight, but I doubt it's for sale. We'll see...

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Originally posted by 85TrailToy:
<STRONG>Besides the obvious! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

And are all IFS frames the same from '86 to '95??

I know the '87-88 cabs look just like the '84-85, so I'm guessing all the mounts are the same.

And hell, as long as I'm here... is there a D44 I can swap in an '86-up Toy without having to cut it down??</STRONG>

If you get an 86 and up frame you can put any d44 in it you want and just set your spring width the same as the perches when you SAS . All depends on how wide you want to go, though. You could throw a wagoneer in it and be pretty close to stock.

Oh yeah, saw the pics on TTORA.......sorry about your luck. <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0">

How'd it happen??

Time to go bigger and badder!! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

[ 08-15-2001: Message edited by: Convertiyota ]
 

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Originally posted by Convertiyota:
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If you get an 86 and up frame you can put any d44 in it you want and just set your spring width the same as the perches when you SAS . All depends on how wide you want to go, though. You could throw a wagoneer in it and be pretty close to stock.

Oh yeah, saw the pics on TTORA.......sorry about your luck. <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0">

How'd it happen??

Time to go bigger and badder!! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

[ 08-15-2001: Message edited by: Convertiyota ]</STRONG>
I'm not worried about moving the perches, it's having to get custom axles, I'd rather not do that.

...was talking to John and he said he bought the hi-steer from you because you were going wiiiide. I said, "damn, is he ever gonna wheel that truck?? He's always working on it." Well now I wish I was still working on mine. <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/jeep1.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by 85TrailToy:
<STRONG>I'm not worried about moving the perches, it's having to get custom axles, I'd rather not do that.

...was talking to John and he said he bought the hi-steer from you because you were going wiiiide. I said, "damn, is he ever gonna wheel that truck?? He's always working on it." Well now I wish I was still working on mine. <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/jeep1.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
I didn't mean move the perches. I meant you wouldn't have to go through the hassle of outboarding your springs if you wanted to go wide. You would only have to set them right the first time to whatever axle you choose.

How wide do you want to go??

Yeah, I'm going 44/12 bolt. I was sooooooo close to being done, but then I found a deal I couldn't pass up, sooooooo. There's a million other things left to do so I figure I'm might as well do it all at once and finish with it EXACTLY the way I want it.
 

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Originally posted by A Toyota In Progress:
[QB]In 89 the frames got longer (51") rear springs and updated body componts and frame due to the avalible V6 option. QB]

V6 option was in 87 or 88, same frame as 86 <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by Convertiyota:
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How wide do you want to go??

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As wide as an '86-95 rear. If I have to get an IFS frame.
 

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Originally posted by 85TrailToy:
<STRONG>Besides the obvious! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

And are all IFS frames the same from '86 to '95??
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Hey man ... I saw the pics over there! Whatever parts or anything you need we can go ahead and start looking for you. So far, I have been 10/10 on parts.. Let me know and I'll start hunting and making a few calls. It's always easier when you have the manpower...!! <IMG SRC="smilies/beer.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/jeep1.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/beer.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by A Toyota In Progress:
<STRONG>Umm Dude when i posted the first time i had no idea what happened. MORE PICS PLEASE of the carnage. I think some one on the ttora said
85TRAILTOY (TAKE 3)
If the frame is cursed im getting rid of the drivers fender, hood, and bumper. all those things came froma flipped truck after i flipped mine. Watch me do it too.</STRONG>
Mike I got the rear bumper from that truck on my 4Runner and it hasn't flipped yet. Must be a thing with that frsme and the GWNF. Your parts shouold be fine.

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Frank,
if you need any help let me know. By the way if you switch to a D44 what are ya going to do with that new 3rd member you just bought <IMG SRC="smilies/question.gif" border="0">

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Hey kajo, i was kidding about getting rid of the parts, hell i put new tires on my truck and i flipped it, frank put a new frame, gears, rebuilt axle, etc and roleld his. humm something about modifications and toyotas flipping hummmm. oh wait the truck just did a sommersault out side <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by Kajo:
<STRONG> By the way if you switch to a D44 what are ya going to do with that new 3rd member you just bought <IMG SRC="smilies/question.gif" border="0">

[ 08-15-2001: Message edited by: Kajo ]</STRONG>
I was thinking D44 if I end up having to get an IFS frame.
 

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Don't know if it's true, but allegedly IFS frames are a little stronger from the firewall forward. SAS jobs don't seem to have the engine-mount-forward frame cracking problems that the solid axle frames have.
 

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Good News, I found you a 86 SWB Rust Free frame for dada $100 bucks, its at the DRM compound tho so you will have to travel to get it. you can get a hotel for $45 bucks if you mention my name to the hotel. GET ON ICQ
 

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Originally posted by 85TrailToy:
<STRONG>Besides the obvious! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

And are all IFS frames the same from '86 to '95??

I know the '87-88 cabs look just like the '84-85, so I'm guessing all the mounts are the same.

And hell, as long as I'm here... is there a D44 I can swap in an '86-up Toy without having to cut it down??</STRONG>

FWIW, I have an '84 2WD I'm parting out.
Broderick
 

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Drew....I'm guessing most SASs use crossover steering or see much less hard core time using a push-pull box, so the stresses would be different.
Jay
 
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