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Can someone explaing the difference between the two. I have done searches, but am still a little confused. Thx.
 

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Originally posted by crawlintoy:
<STRONG>Can someone explaing the difference between the two. I have done searches, but am still a little confused. Thx.</STRONG>
Cross over steering the majority of the time is just the draglink above the leafsprings while the hysteer is draglink and tierod above the frame but it can depend on what the perticular manufactor wishes to name the product . The only dumb question is one that is not ask or someone who would refer you to search rather than tell you the answer!
 

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Crossover steering is any steering system that has a drag link that goes from the steering box and "crosses over" to the right side steering arm.

All Pro created Hy-Steer for Toyota's, this is a crossover type steering but unlike those before it, it moved the tie rod up above the leaf springs. This greatly reduces the chance of bending the tie rod.

Here is a picture of crossover steering...



Here is a picture of Hy-Steer Crossover steering...



[ 10-20-2001: Message edited by: Chris Geiger ]
 

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Does the crossover setup perform the same on the street as hysteer? I know hysteer has been highly praised for the steering improvements it gives on the street. Does crossover match or even come close?
 

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Originally posted by crawlintoy:
<STRONG>Does the crossover setup perform the same on the street as hysteer? I know hysteer has been highly praised for the steering improvements it gives on the street. Does crossover match or even come close?</STRONG>
Yes the stanard crossover steering works much better on the street than the stock push pull steering. Crossover steering has less play, less bump steer and does not limit suspension travel like the stock setup does. It's also much less likly to fail when used off road. The stock steering arm is a real common failure point on the trail.

Crossover and Hy-Steer will drive about the same.
 

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Chris,
Are the tie rods that are used with both crossover and hy-steer the same length as a stock tie rod? Or at least close enough that the difference could be adjusted with the FJ80 ends?

I have stock steering, and my tie rod is slightly bent.......I want to get a new one, but cant afford either crossover or hysteer with it right now........

Thanx
 

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IOW, Hy steer IS a crossover steering. Only difference is tie rod position, above or below the axle.
 

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Originally posted by Chris Geiger:
<STRONG>limit suspension travel like the stock setup does.

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The steering does kick ass on the street, even with out a stabalizer

oh and check this pick out
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as you can see, my driver side tire at full stuff will make the spring hit the draglink. if I had my axle moved forward, the dragling would limit my travel, the draglink also gets close to the frame on the passenger side, and I think it would hit the frame if I didnt leave my shock on

still kicks ass though <IMG SRC="smilies/cool.gif" border="0">

[ 10-21-2001: Message edited by: xextr3m3 ]
 

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Originally posted by Cracker:
<STRONG>Chris,
Are the tie rods that are used with both crossover and hy-steer the same length as a stock tie rod? Or at least close enough that the difference could be adjusted with the FJ80 ends?

I have stock steering, and my tie rod is slightly bent.......I want to get a new one, but cant afford either crossover or hysteer with it right now........

Thanx</STRONG>
The stanard crossover uses the stock tie rod, the Hy-Steer needs a 1" shorter tie rod.
 

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The stanard crossover uses the stock tie rod, the Hy-Steer needs a 1" shorter tie rod.
Cool! Thanx Chris.......
That means I can upgrade now, and trim and rethread it later when I can go Hysteer...... <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by Cracker:
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That means I can upgrade now, and trim and rethread it later when I can go Hysteer...... <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
Request that it be threadered deep and explain why, then you will not have to re-thread, just cut and clean up a bit.

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Originally posted by Cracker:
<STRONG>Cool! Thanx Chris.......
That means I can upgrade now, and trim and rethread it later when I can go Hysteer...... <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

If you send the rod back when you go from standard to Hy-Steer we can cut and retap teh rod for the new application.
 
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