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This is kind of a spinoff from another thread I started which focused on the Holley option. I have since decided to go away from that option since I don't want to ditch my current Mast Motorsports harness and computer which work great for my needs.

I spoke with Mast to get their opinion and they told me that any dash that uses J1939 will interface with their system. Pretty much having no clue what that meant I went to google and learned as much as I could. I know old Pirate is dead and all the cool kids are on Instagram and Facebook now pimping their cool guy racer shit but I'm hoping I can get some more tech on digital dash systems here.

Basically here is what I've gotten from my own personal research...

Torque app + tablet:
Definitely the most basic and cheap of all the options, seems to work pretty well. All you need is an OBD2 port and bluetooth adapter. Since my Mast system does not have an OBD2 port I'm not sure if this is even feasible for me. I have found J1939 / OBD2 adapter cables but not clue if they would work in this situation. I also found a J1939 bluetooth adapter. Again, no idea if that could connect to the Torque app or if the J1939 data is compatible with OBD2 data.

Super $$$ dash from Autometer that looks like it came out of their aquisition of Stack. I think this is the dash used in NICECAR
https://www.autometer.com/lcd.html

Autometer dashlink that looks like their answer to the Torque app
https://www.autometer.com/dashlink-obdii-digital-gauges-apple-ios-android.html

Ennovation Controls. These guys were specifically recommended to me by Mast, although there is very little info about them online. They do not seem retail oriented to me. More like OEM.
Displays | Enovation Controls

Racepak. I don't know much about these other than their dashes look dated to me when compared to everything else.
https://store.racepak.com/product-category/digital-dashes/
 

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I run the Torque app on my LS and it works pretty good, but it's basic but that's all I need. Bluetooth connection eats the phone battery like whoa though. I've got a 10k mAh solar battery pack phone charger that needs to be plugged in all the time and then it's good to go.

I've got maybe $30 into the entire setup with the battery phone charger and ODB2 port thingy. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

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I run the Torque app on my LS and it works pretty good, but it's basic but that's all I need. Bluetooth connection eats the phone battery like whoa though. I've got a 10k mAh solar battery pack phone charger that needs to be plugged in all the time and then it's good to go.

I've got maybe $30 into the entire setup with the battery phone charger and ODB2 port thingy. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
If I did that I would use a dedicated tablet in dash and hard wire it to charge with the ignition on.
 

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My .02 cents on using a tablet and Torque.

I found that Torque Pro app supports a USB connection if you want to ditch BT. Was unsure if a device would charge through a OBD2 to usb cable though. Could try a splitter cable, but at this point BT sounds easier

I also found an app called AutoSleeper that wakes and sleeps your device when power is removed. Work nice for key on/key off. You can also setup the Torque App to automatically load as well.

In your case, I do believe J1939 and OBD2 (J1962) use the same CAN Bus protocol, so all you need to is match up CAN HI and CAN LO with proper power and ground to get it to communicate. This would explain the adapters you found.
 

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yea but i know how much you like to be baller
I do like to floss. Not sure if I like it that much though.


My .02 cents on using a tablet and Torque.

I found that Torque Pro app supports a USB connection if you want to ditch BT. Was unsure if a device would charge through a OBD2 to usb cable though. Could try a splitter cable, but at this point BT sounds easier

I also found an app called AutoSleeper that wakes and sleeps your device when power is removed. Work nice for key on/key off. You can also setup the Torque App to automatically load as well.

In your case, I do believe J1939 and OBD2 (J1962) use the same CAN Bus protocol, so all you need to is match up CAN HI and CAN LO with proper power and ground to get it to communicate. This would explain the adapters you found.
Interesting info on the J1939 & OBD2. I'm thinking I may order that J1939 BT adapter from Amazon and just see if it will talk to the Torque app. If not, good thing for free returns.
 

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I use this instead of torque
ScanTool 427201 OBDLink LX Bluetooth: Professional OBD-II Scan Tool for Android & Windows https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H9S71LW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_CMbsBb8D49A7R
I use the "free" tablet AT&T gave me.
It works good, you can customize the display and doesn't seem to mind when I switch screens between it and Pandora.
Definitely hardwire it. I just wired in a usb port behind the dash that is only used for the tablet.
 

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What kind of price range are you shooting for? I've set up a few projects recently with the Plex SDM-700 and it's a pretty nice display with fairly extensive logging and i/o (analog inputs/outputs, frequency inputs, thermocouple inputs) capabilities.

 

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What kind of price range are you shooting for? I've set up a few projects recently with the Plex SDM-700 and it's a pretty nice display with fairly extensive logging and i/o (analog inputs/outputs, frequency inputs, thermocouple inputs) capabilities.

I would probably spend up to $2k for something that really knocked my socks off. But I'm not against spending less than $100 for the Torque app and tablet either. What does that Plex run?
 

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My buggy doesnt have anything digital.
But I've got a $13 BT adapter & Torque with data logging running on my 7.3 Excursion. Its helped a few times when I got bad fuel & was able to clear codes right then.
If you have a laptop with bluetooth, you might also look at https://forscan.org/ (for diagnostics/settings changes), it lets you see and change a lot of "factory" stuff on Fords.

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If you have a laptop with bluetooth, you might also look at https://forscan.org/ (for diagnostics/settings changes), it lets you see and change a lot of "factory" stuff on Fords.

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I have a special cable now from Mast that lets me hook in and change anything I want. Their UI is decent, has nice gauges and everything. That is what got me going down this rabbit hole once I saw how much better and more detailed the data I was getting via their ECM and software vs the cheese dick autometer gauges and sending units I have now.
 

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I have a special cable now from Mast that lets me hook in and change anything I want. Their UI is decent, has nice gauges and everything. That is what got me going down this rabbit hole once I saw how much better and more detailed the data I was getting via their ECM and software vs the cheese dick autometer gauges and sending units I have now.
How about a Windows tablet (such as the Dell Venue 8 Pro: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FFVYV4K/ ) in a waterproof case (if needed), we have the https://www.amazon.com/Dell-SafePort-Rugged-Venue-A7250101/dp/B00G6FITMY/ at work and they seem to work well.
I was recommending ForScan more for hotwheelsYJ and his Excursion.

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How about a Windows tablet (such as the Dell Venue 8 Pro: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FFVYV4K/ ) in a waterproof case (if needed), we have the https://www.amazon.com/Dell-SafePort-Rugged-Venue-A7250101/dp/B00G6FITMY/ at work and they seem to work well.
I was recommending ForScan more for hotwheelsYJ and his Excursion.

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Thought about that but the Mast software is a full featured tuning suite. I would not want to try and run it as dedicated gauges. It's too bad they don't make a dumbed down app version. They haven't updated the software itself in ages though, I get the feeling they want to stick to building motors.
 
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