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I have been thinking about getting a dual case for my 85 4runner sr5 but I don't see how the second shifter would fit since I have a rear heater, any suggestions?? or pics of your set ups

dont really want to go with just the 4:1 gears so that is why I am going with the double
 

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i havent got the dual cases yet but i think the shifter sits just in front of the rear section of the console! hope that helps <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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Here are some ideas:

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As the previous pictures show it is quite do-able. That is if your '85 is a EFI model you can shoehorn the levers in but if the rear case is the one that shifts to 2WH,4WH, Neutral and 4WL you might damage the sides of the console. It is easier if the front shifter is 5 shift position case and the rear one is the 3 position:H-Neut-L As far as I know this is only an optition with the JP Eater dual transfercase. Theyb have the shifting rods to do this . Also their twin shifter module allows no need to modify the console and you can put the second multiplier shiftlever almost anywhere. Even a cable operator up under the dash. This would be a must if your 4runner is a carb 22R. Their phone number is 916-773-3278.
 

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I have a SR5 runner with a rear heater, I had to use a short throw shifter (Marlin), and then "bend it" forward a bit to clear the fan motor. Cutting the console was a bit tricky, I had to re-mount the rear window switches, Then cut from the front edge of the holes, to the back edge of the small pocket. It has been done for a few years now, and still work fine, with no hitting, or rubbing on the console even with a 2" body lift.
 

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<FONT COLOR="Red">No need to modify your console... I just saw Jack O'brien's (JP Eater) setup for 4runners. The front case shifter is set up to shift the rear case and the front case works off of a push / pull lever.. Basically the set up comes out looking just like stock and you can't tell from looking inside that dual cases have been installed. </FONT c>
 

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just looked at a single shift setup about a week ago. it's certainly an option, but you are left with out several gears available w/ twin sticks, namely standard low range, and a true 2 wheel low range. all you have is a crawler. i'm quite sure the owner of the truck would be happy to trade you his setup for a dual shifter set up like the marlin!

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I don't think there is a web page. Just call at 916-773-3278.
 

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I can't say much about the jp eater I haven't seen any in action. living just 15 minutes from Marlins shop I went with a crawler and havent regreted it for a second well worth the money I would of paid a lot more for it and been happy do do so. I guess what I'm saying is a double t-case is a bargain and if you have to give up your rear heater or even your consel you wont be sorry....
 

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dual cases and rear heater:


but with my engine lift, the output of the t-case is REALLY close to the hoses
 

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One problem with the rear heater plumbing is the way the hoses are routed, the two hoses come straight down then bend back up to the hard lines. I had problems with my transfer case flange rubbing on them, so I soldered some 90 degree elbows to them and also added a spacer under the console itself to raise the elbows flush to the bottom of the floor:



In the above picture, there is lots of clearance, since I raised the body 3" and the drivetrain 2", but without that extra inch, its still fairly tight.

One other problem you'll run into is that the rubber hoses are right above line of grease that gets thrown off the u-joint. Might be wise to run so me hard line off the elbows and forward towards the factory hard lines. The rubber heater hose breaks down when in contact with the grease.

I have subsequently disconnected the rear heater and will be removing it once I get a replacement console built.
 
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