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I have an 89 Extra Cab SR5 V6 auto with a bad motor. Since the toy V6 is expensive and a PITA to replace, if I am pulling it out anyways, I should put in something with a little more punch, right?

I went to the toy4x4 (minn) links and checked out the articles there, and it sounds like the ford 302 swap is the most simple.
Does this sound right?

I have a SAS front axle for it, so I can chuck that in and a lift for roughly the same as an IFS lift kit. (unless someone has one that they want to get rid of cheaply <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> )

Thoughts? How many people have done this or other motor costs? How much am I looking at?
 

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It would be simpler to put in the stock motor. Doing a engine swap such as a 302 or a 350 takes some fab work, and ther issues that have to be worked out, such as steering, cooling, driveshafts, etc... If I'm not mistaken Brandon on this site is in the progress of doing this swap.
 

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considering the cost of a replacement V6 is
roughly $1000 junkyard and $3600 crate long block, if I can get a 302/c4 set up for $500 or less wouldn't it make more sense?
It is less than $200 to lengthen/shorten both shafts. And from what I have read online, if you don't bother with the SAS swap, you don't need to redo the steering, right?

I have no idea, just trying to figure out what to do.

Looking at the injected V6, and what it would take to swap it out, I would rather go with a simple carbed engine. This is just a street driver, since I already have a wheeling rig.
 

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Probably the easiest and least expensive would be the 4.3 Chevy witha T350 tranny plugged into your Toy tcase....plenty of room, can use Toy 3core(V6) radiator, make your own motor mounts/tcase xmember....best of all you can get over 200Hp and still get 25 MPG! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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if easy and cheap are your goals. might as well put in the same motor. don't have to do much but plug and hook up. make sense to me!

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it will likely cost you $1500 to 2000 or up to swap in a different motor. trust me ...

say you went with a 4.3L and a T350

the T350 to toy tcase adapter alone is over $500

just the big hard parts alone will cost you close to $1500 not to mention all the 'little' parts ... it adds up quick.

if you want cheap and easy, just put a stock motor back in it.
 

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I have a stock engine 3 hours south from you... complete with everything, t-body, manifolds, etc. $400.... That's what I paid... don't need it, decided to stick with the 22RTE.

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I got my engine free and I have a lot more $$ into the project than it would cost to just get a new motor..

Think of new tranny, wiring, smog, drivelines, steering, radiator (which won't fit under the hood without major cutting btw), clutch and throttle linkage, on and on and...

On the bright side that thing sounds gooooood now <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">
 

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Here is how to estimate a custom project for your vehicle. Get prices on everything you will need for the job. Then estimate the amount of time you think it will take. Now
double it. Now plan on again as much time and about half again as much money to go back and redo all the stuff that didnt work out the fist time. Having done a 5.0L Ford
engine swap, forget about a Toyota radiator
or electric fans. Get everything from the
front of a V8 Explorer or Mountaineer including the fan clutch,radiator and fan shroud. This is the shortest setup ford has made for the 302. also, kit headers or mustang headers dont clear the torsion bars.
(more $$$) good luck <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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yea, a project you thought might be $2000.00 can quickly become $6000.00 so way your options carefully.
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Originally posted by Convertiyota:
<STRONG>Did you drive it last weekend??</STRONG>
clutch issues <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0">

I got the land cruiser stuff and it just does not push the clutch fork far enough to get into gear so I have to do something different <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0">

I'll start by just remounting the slave closer to the bell housing and see what that does..
 

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Find someone in your area who has done the swap. I'm soon to do the 302. My buddy did it in his 4runner. He had to buy a 4cyl t-case to adapt to, and did a solid-swap at the same time and bought everything (no fab). HE spent a lot of money. I plan on fabbing everything and copying a few parts (I'm not too proud to imitate!) so we'll see how cheap I can get away. On the bright side, he gets better mileage now than he did with the 6, and the power is a wonderful thing!
 

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morpheus said:
it will likely cost you $1500 to 2000 or up to swap in a different motor. trust me ...

say you went with a 4.3L and a T350

the T350 to toy tcase adapter alone is over $500

just the big hard parts alone will cost you close to $1500 not to mention all the 'little' parts ... it adds up quick.

if you want cheap and easy, just put a stock motor back in it.
Speaks the truth! :D

Even with all of the hard parts purchased and in the truck when I bought it, I put another $2K into the 3.8 buick that was in the truck. Then decided to tear it out (hated it) and put a 4.3 in. I have a good $2500 into that (including rebuild) w/o even dealing with tranny adapters, etc. that were already in the truck.

If I had a vehicle w/ a Bad 3.0, I would spend the $$ and do a 3.4 in a heartbeat. Had I known at the time of this swap, there would never have been a 4.3 in the truck...
 

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Marvelicious said:
Find someone in your area who has done the swap. I'm soon to do the 302. My buddy did it in his 4runner. He had to buy a 4cyl t-case to adapt to, and did a solid-swap at the same time and bought everything (no fab). HE spent a lot of money. I plan on fabbing everything and copying a few parts (I'm not too proud to imitate!) so we'll see how cheap I can get away. On the bright side, he gets better mileage now than he did with the 6, and the power is a wonderful thing!
your 1st post & you thought you would answer this guys question 3 years late???????????
I think he has done something about his motor problem by now :flipoff2:
 

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:laughing: :laughing: Man Seabass, you got me laughin good on that one! I didn't even check the date. I was just readin. Guess that makes you a "citizen moderator :p "
 

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LouBell , BaHaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, I just found it so funny being his 1st post, what on earth made him think to answer a 3 year old question? Does he think the guy is glued to his computer the last 3 years trying to decide what to do, lol:D Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy toooooooo much freetime on his hands;)
 
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