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I assume most everyone saw the article in this months FW about the electric Land Rover. I'm a big fan of the internal combustion engine, but the possibilities suggested in the article were pretty interesting (lower center of gravity, less parts to breakdown, more torque, better acceleration, no emissions testing, etc.). Has anyone else thought of doing something like this?

Anyway, I checked out Wilde EVolutions website and they have more details on the Rover (i.e., pics, specs, etc.):
http://store.wilde-evolutions.com/wilde/roverFaceOffPhotos.html





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Any idea what the range is?
 

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Range is about 40 miles on one charge. With a small gas engine to recharge, the article said that the range is almost unlimited at 1/2 gallon of gas/hour.

Horsepower was 100, Torque was 450 lb-ft at 0 rpm, and it went 0-60 in 11.93 seconds, cf. to the gas powered Rover, at 26.34 seconds. Curb weight for the electric Rover was 3560 lbs. and the gas Rover weighed in at 3281 lbs.
 

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I saw this a few years ago. Interesting concept. The company I work for (formally Chryslers's Military Electronics group) has an Electric Vehicle group. We prototyped a Hybrid Electric HUMVEE for the Army. Tests have been pretty good. Specs show that it has more power than the standard HUMVEE, can climb a steeper grade, and has a higher top speed (personally I'll believe it all when I see it). It does drive and work though. They took it cross country last year.

I'd love to see the faces of the Sierra Club if a workable electric Off-road vehicle was debuted and was inexpensive <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

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Hmmmm..... We have a fiat X19 in our shop that was converted like that. Its kinda cool, very clean install job. But, why use the stock trans? I mean with electric motors you don't really need to run a 5spd trans and transfercase. You'd save a lot of weight plus power loss by just hooking the motors up to the axles or even right at the wheels. Then there is no need for crawler gears or lockers. You could even build your own extra high clearance axles. If you mounted the motors somehow on the front spindles there wouldn't even be steering u-joints to break. Its a cool idea if that whole range issue could be solved.

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Originally posted by Doc Savage:
<STRONG>I saw this a few years ago. Interesting concept. The company I work for (formally Chryslers's Military Electronics group) has an Electric Vehicle group. We prototyped a Hybrid Electric HUMVEE for the Army. Tests have been pretty good. Specs show that it has more power than the standard HUMVEE, can climb a steeper grade, and has a higher top speed (personally I'll believe it all when I see it). It does drive and work though. They took it cross country last year.
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Here's a link to the EV Hummer: http://www.uqm.com/Technologies/programs/hummer.html

If I'm looking at the picture right, doesn't that EV Hummer have individual motors for each wheel? That would be cool. How difficult would that be to do, I wonder?

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Originally posted by Ghetto Fab.:
<STRONG>Hmmmm..... We have a fiat X19 in our shop that was converted like that. Its kinda cool, very clean install job. But, why use the stock trans? I mean with electric motors you don't really need to run a 5spd trans and transfercase. You'd save a lot of weight plus power loss by just hooking the motors up to the axles or even right at the wheels. Then there is no need for crawler gears or lockers. You could even build your own extra high clearance axles. If you mounted the motors somehow on the front spindles there wouldn't even be steering u-joints to break. Its a cool idea if that whole range issue could be solved.

Kev</STRONG>

Electric motors do produce their peak torque at zero rpm, but they still benefit from gear reduction. With no gear reduction a starter motor could not turn over an engine, but with 6 teeth or so on the motor, and 157 teeth on the flywheel the motors torque is multiplied by 26 times or so.
 

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Electric vehicle to me just means that some one else does the polluting to supply the power for your batteries.

40 mile range sucks.
 

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Originally posted by Rocktoad:
<STRONG>Electric vehicle to me just means that some one else does the polluting to supply the power for your batteries.

40 mile range sucks.</STRONG>
Who cares about who's polluting! Notice I didn't list, "No emissions." I said, "No Emissions Testing," i.e., no government hassles.

As far as range goes, if you can recharge while you're driving and can go 80 miles on a 1/2 gallon of gas, what's the problem?
 

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You can get small wind generators for $500 that you could put on a pole at camp <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> Seriously though, a small generator would work fine, because you go so slow on the trail anyways. You wouldn't be using ANY power when you were stopped.

This would be VERY cool. Someone must make an adapter to connect an electric motor to a Toyota drivetrain......
 

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This would be way cool as a trail rig only! Really it would be good as a daily driver. I would go for a 5 gal tank and have a 400 mile range per $7.50 (average gas prices).

Who has the financing for those things? Is iffy credit okay! Where do I sign. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

badassjeepguy: You seem a little ****-phobic.... too close to home? LOL <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> What is wrong with this idea(given we could slap on some 38's, HP 60's, and some deep gears)? Please explain your position, if you have one?
 
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