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carbureted or efi ? sounds pretty classic fuel starvation.blocked fuel filter? not too sure about the whole "carb" nest of problems as mine is efi.
does it do it at idle as well,or just driving? there are too many things to list without more details to base opinions on,dude. <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0">
does it do it at idle as well,or just driving? there are too many things to list without more details to base opinions on,dude. <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0">
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Check to see if you have spark or gas squirting down the venturi. Pull a wire and stick an old plug in it. Lay it on the engine (ground) then turn the starter. Should see sparks. If working the throttle off idle doesn't get gas squirting from the accellerator pump... see the other guys post. If no spark... coils often act that way when they're going bad and heat up. Cool em down (save the beer though) and they work for a while again. Always look for these two things when starting to troubleshoot a dead mill... saves a lot of searching.
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<IMG SRC="smilies/jeep2.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/vader.gif" border="0">nullOriginally posted by Mudmagnet:
<STRONG>My sami is stalling after only a minute of driving and won't start till it cools
any help is good help
thanks <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce2.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
Ok heres something to check! I know your going to say "No freakin way", but check the
contacts of the Ignition fuse in the fuse box.
Sounds hooky but my Zuki used to stall for no apparent reason and not start until it
felt like it. I would always get out and check for spark - which it never had and fuel - which was always OK. Then I would try to restart it and it usually restarted. So the last time this happened to me I was a few hundred miles from home and on my way to Paragon park for the weekend and it died at at toll booth. So I did the usual spark and fuel check, no spark, no start, no nothing, so I ended up checking the fuse. All I did was touch the Ignition fuse and everything was OK. So off I went. Well it happened again at Paragon park. So I check everything again, turns out the contacts on the ignition fuse were spread apart and not making good contact. Bent them closer together and never had the problem again.
Wayne
contacts of the Ignition fuse in the fuse box.
Sounds hooky but my Zuki used to stall for no apparent reason and not start until it
felt like it. I would always get out and check for spark - which it never had and fuel - which was always OK. Then I would try to restart it and it usually restarted. So the last time this happened to me I was a few hundred miles from home and on my way to Paragon park for the weekend and it died at at toll booth. So I did the usual spark and fuel check, no spark, no start, no nothing, so I ended up checking the fuse. All I did was touch the Ignition fuse and everything was OK. So off I went. Well it happened again at Paragon park. So I check everything again, turns out the contacts on the ignition fuse were spread apart and not making good contact. Bent them closer together and never had the problem again.
Wayne
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Hmmmm,
If you're sure that spark and gas are there, it's strange that it has to cool off before it runs.
How about a vapor lock? Did it just start this out of the blue? Did it start happening after you worked on something? That is usually the key on aircraft. Most problems show up after maintenance.
The fuse thing could be a possibility but that wouldn't be related to heat. How about the float setting. If it's too low, you could be draining the bowl and then it fills before you get a chance to open the hood. I also had a similar problem that ended up being the ignition switch which is a common Suzuki problem. Took it apart and had to resolder the wires and clean it. I also use something called Corrosion-X to keep all the grounds and contacts in shape. BTW, everybody needs to get some of this stuff. Great lube and penetrant too. Throw away all the rest of your oils after you try this stuff. Keeps my shackles from squeeking too. www.corrosion-x.com
Fusable links can do that too. Don't carry the current needed yet don't open up completely. Just replace it or jumper around. Better yet change it to a 30 amp fuse and get rid of it.
Had an old POS Merc Capri that would act like yours. Changed the ECU couse it would lose spark until it "cooled off". Or so I thought. Turned out that the bushings in the distributor holding the shaft in alignment were shot and letting the shaft wobble around enough to short out at the pickup plate randomly. Like to never found that one!
Hope this helps and if not keep posting.
Scottnull
If you're sure that spark and gas are there, it's strange that it has to cool off before it runs.
How about a vapor lock? Did it just start this out of the blue? Did it start happening after you worked on something? That is usually the key on aircraft. Most problems show up after maintenance.
The fuse thing could be a possibility but that wouldn't be related to heat. How about the float setting. If it's too low, you could be draining the bowl and then it fills before you get a chance to open the hood. I also had a similar problem that ended up being the ignition switch which is a common Suzuki problem. Took it apart and had to resolder the wires and clean it. I also use something called Corrosion-X to keep all the grounds and contacts in shape. BTW, everybody needs to get some of this stuff. Great lube and penetrant too. Throw away all the rest of your oils after you try this stuff. Keeps my shackles from squeeking too. www.corrosion-x.com
Fusable links can do that too. Don't carry the current needed yet don't open up completely. Just replace it or jumper around. Better yet change it to a 30 amp fuse and get rid of it.
Had an old POS Merc Capri that would act like yours. Changed the ECU couse it would lose spark until it "cooled off". Or so I thought. Turned out that the bushings in the distributor holding the shaft in alignment were shot and letting the shaft wobble around enough to short out at the pickup plate randomly. Like to never found that one!
Hope this helps and if not keep posting.
Scottnull
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Oops. <IMG SRC="smilies/jester.gif" border="0"> Bad url. Try www.corrosionx.com without the dash.
Later,
Scott
Later,
Scott
ok, here's the scoop, it all started after the "rebuild"(including new tires, rims, paint and a body swap......) i swiched the body, which was a hard top to a convertible. and when i took it out to play it died about 3Km into the trail(had to get towed home by an ATV.......ooooo the shame) i think it might be the automatic choke cause its not holding its vacume...... and when it gets warm and suppose to shut off it stays open and stalls, and its realy low on gas now so that might be it.........but i have now clue what else there is, o yeah and the rings are bad butit worked fine before the body swap.
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"really low on gas"!!! <IMG SRC="smilies/laughing.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/laughing.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/laughing.gif" border="0">
i would fill up the whole screen with these things if i could-that would be too ironic,eh?
have you tried just holding/removing the auto choke and just "manually" attempting to keep it running?
have you started it up,had the hood open and peered into the carb with the air filter off and monkeyed with the carb choke controls etc.? does it keep running if you spray quick start into the carb when it's about to die?(if i were you i would protect myself appropriately and have fire extinguishers all over the place!!)is the gas tank vent plugged?
you haven't ever said if the actual flow of gas to the carb stops,or fuel is fine but stalling occurs anyway i don't believe?
i would fill up the whole screen with these things if i could-that would be too ironic,eh?
have you tried just holding/removing the auto choke and just "manually" attempting to keep it running?
have you started it up,had the hood open and peered into the carb with the air filter off and monkeyed with the carb choke controls etc.? does it keep running if you spray quick start into the carb when it's about to die?(if i were you i would protect myself appropriately and have fire extinguishers all over the place!!)is the gas tank vent plugged?
you haven't ever said if the actual flow of gas to the carb stops,or fuel is fine but stalling occurs anyway i don't believe?
yup tryed holding the choke open and it ran fine then let it go and put it back together and took it for a zip in the feild and it stalled about second lap, butit ran good when the screw driver was stuck in the carb to hold the choke open.......so i got to get gas and try it with the choke wired open and see if it will stall.....
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While you're at it, change yer fuel filter. If you had the body off you mighta stirred up all the gremlins in there and they're in yer carb now. AND GO BUY SOME GAS! <IMG SRC="smilies/crybaby2.gif" border="0">
Ahhhh, Now I feel better. <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0">
Ahhhh, Now I feel better. <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0">
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