I'm heading to the con this weekend. I'm gonna have to bring my ugly stick now and see if I can plug a few trout for dinner. :smokin:
Man I'm sorry to hear that. Yeh I figure now would be a good time because its still early in the year.rlwjaw said:Before all the jerks decided to turn the trail into a carnival full of clowns we used to catch 14" fish at spider lake all the time . Do your fishing now before the rest of the lakes become cesspools too.
It's always been my understanding that you didn't need one for day use, but I found this on the Eldorado NF website:cruzila said:You need a permit to go in to the wilderness. Period.
Apparently it does, Dan. News to me, as all the other wilderness areas I've been to did not require a day use permit.Bronchole said:Is this different from one wilderness to another? I was just doing some reading on forest service lit. on the wilderness around the Dusy and they specifically say that you don't need a permit if you are only going in for the day.
as far as you know they poop into 6"-8" deep holes and cover them with surrounding ground covering just like others with no p.e.t.t.'s on the south sides of the mountains in dirt near composing trees away from bodies of water and granite.....just like us right? do you have any pictures of violaters pooping?randii said:So if hiker day-use permits are required....
...itstands to reason that 4x4 permits are soon to follow.
IF --and only IF -- we compare apples (Wilderness) to oranges (regular national forest land).
I'll take a wilderness day-use permit for my 4x4, tho. There are some old roads I'd like to drive near Rockbound Lake. Yes, that's right -- ROADS in a wilderness area. Who'd-a-thunk?
I'm frustrated with the system that allows roads in a wilderness but prevents 4x4 use of them, yet freely allows multi-use access to the Rubicon Trail, and blames every ill upon motorized recreation... especially when presented with photos of hikers walking through closure areas. :mad3:
Hikers, montain bikers, horsemen, and other users all poop, and I haven't seen any of them carrying a Pett toilet system. To bring this back on topic, they fish, too.
It just grates on my sense to see the rules implemented with such prejudice. In low-traffic areas, I'm fine with cat-holes -- but users on Rubicon Trail have sufficient traffic that this isn't a good option. Us 4x4 folks are supporting a more responsible solution -- packing it *ALL* out.NOODLES said:as far as you know they poop into 6"-8" deep holes and cover them with surrounding ground covering just like others with no p.e.t.t.'s on the south sides of the mountains in dirt near composing trees away from bodies of water and granite.....just like us right?
Jeepskickass said:Apparently it does, Dan. News to me, as all the other wilderness areas I've been to did not require a day use permit.
For Sierra NF:
When Is A Wilderness Permit Required?
Wilderness permits are required year-round on the Sierra National Forest for all overnight trips into the John Muir, Ansel Adams Dinkey and Kaiser Wildernesses. Day-use wilderness permits are not required.
nolan said:fishing buck seems to work good with flies or worms. see alot of smaller trout in the springs and some twelve inchers sometimes under the bridge of the springs. heard the where pullen good size trout out of miller. tried worms but only caught about fifteen of these odd looking fish,i was told they were young northern pike, looked more like a giant minnow.they only measured about five inches or so. sure does'nt sound good for the trout population.