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Just a heads-up, www.welders-direct.com is giving away free carts with some of the mig welders. This offer starts of course the week AFTER I order mine <IMG SRC="smilies/crybaby2.gif" border="0">

I haven't gotten to use it yet <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0"> I had to come back to school right after it came in...but at least it looks pretty sitting on the bench (since I don't have a cart built yet <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0"> )

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It's not just thru welders direct, It'thru all MILLER dealers. You get a Free spool gun with a 210!

[ 10-03-2001: Message edited by: Old Scout ]
 

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Sheesh. I should have waited a week to order, ain't that always the way things go?
 

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Ask them if they can help you out. Send them that pic and tell them your are an "Official Inspection Station." Maybe they will send you one.
 

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Originally posted by SweetCJ7 aka. Allen Kurtz:
<STRONG>Ask them if they can help you out. Send them that pic and tell them your are an "Official Inspection Station." Maybe they will send you one.</STRONG>
Hahaha My dad's garage was an inspection station until we did away with inspections this past spring...we decided to hi-jack the sign and put it in the shop at home <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by Moab Austin:
<STRONG>What miller is that and $$$$$?</STRONG>
It's the Miller 175 and it was $635 no tax no shipping...
 

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lol - that Miller 175 looks an awful lot like a Hobart 175 but painted blue <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by DRM:
<STRONG>lol - that Miller 175 looks an awful lot like a Hobart 175 but painted blue <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
thankfully thats because Miller builds hobart now and not the other way around <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by DRM:
<STRONG>lol - that Miller 175 looks an awful lot like a Hobart 175 but painted blue <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
Didn't you know, blue paint makes it weld better? Yeah, it's true!

It's due to the different wavelengths of light reflected by the blue paint, causing ionization of the air in the room that results in a better arc being struck.

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Originally posted by NE-RokToy:
<STRONG>thankfully thats because Miller builds hobart now and not the other way around <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
Well, since I owned a Hobart 175 back in 1995 that looked EXACTLY like that, and I am pretty sure that is well before Miller bought them out, I think you better get yo' facts straight about who looks like who <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by DRM:
<STRONG>Well, since I owned a Hobart 175 back in 1995 that looked EXACTLY like that, </STRONG>
Hey Dave, do you have any pictures of that so we can confirm what you're talking about for sure? IF <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0"> it is true people ought to know before they going buying anything.

FWIW though, here's the current Handler 175 (off the Hobart web site):
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So at least the current models aren't identical.
 

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That is the same one I owned <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0">

Sorry, I don't generally have people take pictures of me & my welder <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by DRM:
<STRONG>That is the same one I owned <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0">
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Well, it doesn't look exactly like mine <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0">

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Sorry, I don't generally have people take pictures of me & my welder <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
<IMG SRC="smilies/clown.gif" border="0"> I thought maybe you might have a pic of the truck or some truck part that might have it in the background <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0">
After all, what kind of loser takes pictures of his welder?

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I never said it looked *exactly* like it, now did I? <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by DRM:
<STRONG>I never said it looked *exactly* like it, now did I? </STRONG>
Read what you wrote <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0"> Haha I always wanted to say that to you <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Originally posted by DRM:
<STRONG>Well, since I owned a Hobart 175 back in 1995 that looked EXACTLY like that, </STRONG>
Just giving ya a hard time Dave. Gotta do my part to help ya hit 10k, right? <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

For what it's worth, this new Miller 175 (replacing the 172) does have a little bit more "cheapo" plastic than I would like <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0">
 

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IIRC, the Miller 175 has continuously variable voltage whereas the Hobart 175 has 4 distinct settings. Also I think the Miller has all copper windings and the Hobart has copper/aluminum.

Thanks for the heads up on the free carts... now if I can only convince the WIFE that I NEEEEEEEED it. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

BTW, looks like the Hobarts come w/ free carts too. <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0">

[ 10-04-2001: Message edited by: Erik Beeb ]
 

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These machines new Millers' (135 & 175) VS. lastest Hobarts' (135 & 175) are VERY similar the internal parts & the gun are the same. The biggest difference is the infinate voltage control vs. taps on the Hobart , and the fact that on the Miller you get a cast aluminum drive roll housing that incorporates an EASY to remove & replace drive roll. I just bought a Miller 135 to replace a 135 hobart, I use mine only for .024 hard wire , and sometimes to burn flux core wire for quick repairs outdoors (I use a Millermatic 250 mostly however)so my reason for switching to the miller was I was less than impressed with the cheap ass wing nut that held the 8" spool on , and changing position on the drive roll for a different wire size usally meant bloody knuckles (pissed me off)- but I would still say eighther machine is excellent you just have to figure out if $100 more for a few extras is worth it cause they weld the same.
weldpro <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
Just read Beebs post- Nope your not going to find an all copper transformer in there its ALL aluminum BUT so is my Millermatic 250(1998 model), and to my surprise so is my Syncrowave 250(2000 model)I take em' apart asap after I get a new one just to check it out. What I have been told is arc quality is better !? I say there similar but AL is WAYYYYY cheaper than copper so probably $$$$ is the real reason.
One more thing about the Miller 135 & 175 it is cool to have the light for overload on the front panel- the hobart I sold overheated while the guy was welding , and he thought the machinee was broken but he had only exceeded the duty cycle the light would have saved him some time!
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Good info Weldpro <IMG SRC="smilies/glasses.gif" border="0">
 
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