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Someone told me that if you are going down an extremely steep hill with a locker in the back that it can cause the back end of your jeep to slide one way or the other. Anybody ever had this happen to them, or anybody have a thought on this?
 

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if you are side hilling it will cause you to slide.

Unless of course you have air lockers then just open them up. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> Thats what I do.

In the snow a spool'd rear could cause you to spin rear to front in the snow or heavy mud. But I doubt it would affect you on anything else.
 

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I never had a problem with the slEaZy locker doing that, but if your going down hill isn't the axle pushing the driveshaft and not the engine? so a detroit locker shouldn't lock(?) probably makes more sense after some <IMG SRC="smilies/beer.gif" border="0">
 

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i have lockrites front and rear and i never had any problem like your talking about <IMG SRC="smilies/beer.gif" border="0"> is good
 

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After briefly musing about this, I think that when using engine braking, the locker locks up just like it does when the drivetrain is locking it, except in the reverse direction. If you happen to be turning a corner going downhill, the locker will allow one wheel to underrun (instead of overrun as in the case when under drivetrain power) the other wheel so your outer wheel will be the only one slowing you down and may slide out.

That said, I've never had a problem as I try to avoid turning when going down steep hils <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
 

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i'm locked and have been down some pretty steep inclines. seems the only time i've felt the rear sliding out is with braking - maybe that causes the locker to lock? if i engine brake, it doesn't happen...i dunno...
 

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Originally posted by BellyUp:
In the snow a spool'd rear could cause you to spin rear to front in the snow or heavy mud. But I doubt it would affect you on anything else.[/QB]
BellyUp, I am running welded dif's front and rear and I have never had a problem like you describe in snow or heavy mud. And I see plenty of mud and steep hills here in Tennessee. Only time I have ever had a problem with the rear sliding is under braking on steep downhills.

Mark
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Don't worry, just don't push too hard on the gas and it will be find. Just use your driving skill to keep it right <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by Qbert:
<STRONG>Spool here never a problem.</STRONG>
Thats right.

Just put a locker in that thing and go wheelin' If your that worried you might wanna get those chrome nerf bars for the body <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">
 

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I have had this happen, but I'm not sure it would have been any different without the Detroit. I was going down a steep fire road that was slick and a little sloped to one side. I used the engine to go slow and tapped the gas every now and then to bring it back to the high side of the road. It felt a lot like the way beginner snow-boarders go down a run.

I have also had the back step out when I was on a steep side hill, but again, I'm not sure if I'd been better off with open diffs. I can't imagine wheel'n without my lockers.
 

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I;ve never had a problem with Detroits front and rear.

If you happen to be turning a corner going downhill, the locker will allow one wheel to underrun (instead of overrun as in the case when under drivetrain power)
I'm pretty sure the design of the locker is such that it will never allow a tire to underrun the other - only match or overrun
 

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Thanks for the input.

I am from central Colorado, and maybe if some of you guys have wheeled CO you might have heard of Red Cone road. It's a road that goes to the top of Red Cone Peak, when you decend the peak it's a one way road, down a ridge just wide enough for a vehicle, and it's to steep to climb. Anyway this past summer there were three jeeps that went off the edge and killed some people. From what I heard was that all the jeeps that went over had rear lockers. I was just wondering if this was driver error or if it had something to do with the rear being locked.

I am not worried about myself because I am going to put a detroit in the rear of my jeep, but I am a college student and as many of you might know, well funds are usually kinda scarce.

Thanks again for the input. <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by Madmarx:
<STRONG>BellyUp, I am running welded dif's front and rear and I have never had a problem like you describe in snow or heavy mud. And I see plenty of mud and steep hills here in Tennessee. Only time I have ever had a problem with the rear sliding is under braking on steep downhills.

Mark
CJ7 with 38's and stuff</STRONG>

Mark, I think I should have said that better. I meant when sidehilling in snow.

We have electric powerlines here and they are all grass. When covered with snow and trying to sidehill locked slide everytime. Unlocked sticks much better. psst pssst ahhh yes the lovely sound of ARB's disengaging. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by marcotheman:
<STRONG>Thanks for the input.

I am from central Colorado, and maybe if some of you guys have wheeled CO you might have heard of Red Cone road. It's a road that goes to the top of Red Cone Peak, when you decend the peak it's a one way road, down a ridge just wide enough for a vehicle, and it's to steep to climb. Anyway this past summer there were three jeeps that went off the edge and killed some people. From what I heard was that all the jeeps that went over had rear lockers. I was just wondering if this was driver error or if it had something to do with the rear being locked.

I am not worried about myself because I am going to put a detroit in the rear of my jeep, but I am a college student and as many of you might know, well funds are usually kinda scarce.

Thanks again for the input. <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
Too steep to climb,I don't think so,I went up and down Red cone,no problem for a Locked FJ-40.

Although I doubt I would have made it up without lockers.

I know it's supposed to be one way <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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In a spooled truck I have noticed that from time to time. Mostly in muddy, off camber downhills, and only when you give it a touch of gas for one reason or another. It really isn't too tough to get the ass end back to where it needs to be with another blip of the throttle and minor steering adjustment <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> All in all, the benefits of locked/spooled outweigh this problem 10 to 1. Of course those of you with the $$$ for ARBs or OXs don't really have a problem with this, now do ya? Unfortunately us poor college folk rely on ole Mr. Lincoln for traction <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by marcotheman:
<STRONG>Someone told me that if you are going down an extremely steep hill with a locker in the back that it can cause the back end of your jeep to slide one way or the other. Anybody ever had this happen to them, or anybody have a thought on this?</STRONG>
better not get lockers they are far to dangerous for <IMG SRC="smilies/rainbow.gif" border="0">'s to have. <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">
 
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