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Iam going to do SOA on my 71 CJ5 with some 2.5" lift YJ springs and also do shackle reversal at the same time. For the spring mounts on the frame should i buy some or build some? I know i will need brake lines drivelines spring perches maybe steering.

Where should i get the spring perches from? Also any other help you can give me.

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Skip the shackle reversal, and make your life easier. The problems outweigh the benefits.
 

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Originally posted by Bob/CA:
<STRONG>Skip the shackle reversal, and make your life easier. The problems outweigh the benefits.</STRONG>
HAHAH yep, so you keep saying.. I on the other hand dont believe you <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by mike:
<STRONG>HAHAH yep, so you keep saying.. I on the other hand dont believe you <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
i also disagree.. check out www.jeepgod.net
there is my home made soa/shackle reversal.
 

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Get the Mopar spring pads. Box of 2 for $9. Do a search and you'll find the part#.
Also, I did not do a shackle reversal on my 2A YJ SOA and I am happy with it.
 

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And what are the advantages again??? <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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Make your own spring mounts. You can make the shackle mounts too but I was lazy and bought those from Tomken. Perches are easy to make too. Don't forget to mount the axle forward 1" for clearance. If you don't mind the extra work you should rotate the knuckles and tip that pinion up a tad.

Hey Bob, <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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Eric, buddy... <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> back at ya... <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

And what were those advantages again??? <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Somebody please help me!!! <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">
 

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In my case shackle reversal advantages are too many to list...well maybe only two.

1 - No more plowing dirt with the shackles.
2 - Better on road manners.

My approach angle should be better by 3" in the front after shackle reversal.
 

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Gee, that's funny. I was just talking to a guy yesterday that complained about the shackle reversal front mounts doing the same thing. Huh.

Come on now. What are the advantages. And I'll even give you street handling. Which is debatable.

Anybody??? <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

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I have to agree that the shackle reverse is worth doing. I got a CJ5 with a shackle reversal and it handles GREAT! <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">
The only problem I have had is the bad nose dive when braking hard. <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0">
 

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increased angle of attack, the ability to traverse desert washboard roads at high rates of speed and still be able to control the direction of travel, I also like the way the suspension travels personally.. but its all a personal choice.. and no.. I didnt move the axle forward, and no it doesnt hit my fenders. but.. my pre-amc 5's a little different than later cj's
 

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I did a SO on an 81 cj5 with no SR and it handles awesome on the street and washboard roads. Haven't seen much problem with angle of attack either. Got the spring perches from RE. Easy Peasy

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Hey Todd long time no see. I did a M.O.R.E. SR with a buggy leaf on my 72 and it has turned out to be a real pain because the mounts screw up engine placement and it adds all sorts of comlpactions. I haven't driven it yet but I hope it is worth it.
 

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I'm running 38's and haven't cut any sheetmetal on the front fenders. Any SR guys out there done that? <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Anybody else with the SR have any frame cracks?

Anybody else break more front u-joints now after doing the SR?
 

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Originally posted by Bob/CA:
<STRONG>I'm running 38's and haven't cut any sheetmetal on the front fenders. Any SR guys out there done that? <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Anybody else with the SR have any frame cracks?

Anybody else break more front u-joints now after doing the SR?</STRONG>
I dont know.. My fenders were FAR from straight before it had 33's on it (you know the look.. floppy and frowning). No frame cracks... course the whole thing was boxed when I built it and Im running a welded in 1/4" C channel "bumper".. and nope.. no more front ujoints than before. I think theres a major difference Bob.. between an SR from a box and one you built your front suspension around.. if you want examples of that.. look at my full sized 76 GMC. MUCH heavier both curb and loaded than my jeep, and none of those problems either (cept the damned steering box)
 

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Thanks for the replys.
Hey Bgcj5, talk to you later.
Thanks Todd
 

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My jeep came factory with SR and I have to say I like it that way. It tracks down the road great. I feel this is a plus if you drive your jeep to the trailhead. I do seem have front wheel hop more in loose gravel/Rock ascents than my non SR compadres. I do like the way the axle moves under compression from articulation. I dont have any cracks on my frame and it is a 1955 with dana 44's and SOA alcan springs. I did see a fellow club member not make it up an obstical in moab where a SR jeep made it up fine. Both were running revolvers After reviewing our tapes we noticed that on a steep ascent the front end "opened up" and caused him to slide sidways. The SR jeep did not have that problem. I know that many of you do not run "revolting shackles" or whatever you call them but if you plan to go that route take that into consideration.

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bob,
1) yeah SR handles better
2) pushing the front of the spring into solid obsticles helpd you climb them. i dont have shackles to load the springs and hop into the air.
3) unless I had about 4 feet of lift, there is no way i could get away without trimming the fenders with the amount of flex i get with the sr. mine is set up a bit differently than most, but i flexes better than any shackle forward jeep i have ever seen. and i have seen most of the built jeeps on the east coast.
4) I have never broken a front driveshaft u-joint, but my driveshafts are the proper length and i dont jump my jeep.
5) i have cracked my newer frame, but i sure have cracked about 4 cj frames right behind where the stock shackles mount when the shackles were in the stock positions.
not to ruffle your feasthers, but you havent seen enough working shackle reversals if you dont thionk they are better.
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I would do a shackle reversal if it made any sense whatsoever. But it doesn't Sorry. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 
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