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Has anyone run a heavy flywheel in here on a 22RE? I'm looking at the 30 lb. one from LC.

I am contemplating rebuilding the engine and was wondering if it was worth it, since I need to do the clutch, why not the flywheel too, if it helps. Anyone have any firsthand experience with running one, and how it affects street driving? (With 5.29s and 33s)

Do ya happen to know how much the factory flywheel weighs?
 

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hey!

factory flywheel for my '87 22re is 22 lbs.
i considered replacing when i put on the lc eng. dual comosite clutch, but got tight on cash! just had the factory one resurfaced, seems to be workin' great!

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I've heard using a flywheel from a mid 80's Celica is 30lbs. Dunno if that's true or not. I wanted to look for one while rebuilding mine, but forgot to. sure they could be had pretty cheap..Check out TAP...lol <IMG SRC="smilies/laughing.gif" border="0">
 

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If your into excelleration I wouldn't get it. 8lbs is a huge difference and you will notice it when you push the motor through the gears. If you just like to cruze around and you do alot of rockwheeling then I would go for it.

I was going to get one before I decided to go the diesel route. Turns out the flywheel on my 2L motor weighs 35lbs!!
 

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I've got the 5lb heavier flywheel and clutch kit from TRD, made a marked improvement in slowspeed torque. In situations where the engine would nearly stall before it idles right through now. I didn't notice any "seat-of-the-pants" difference in acceleration, other that I can get off the line better now with my 33s and 4.10s.
 

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I have the 10lb heavier Centerforce flywheel. It makes a big difference on the low end, less stalling and more torque. Truck used to need gas to get up my driveway, now will do it at idle. Also the extra mass can soak up clutch heat better. Downside is it kills acceleration, like I had any before.
 

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I thought someone made like a 45lb flywheel for toyota's. Gotta find out where I saw that. Maby I'm dreamin.
 

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I also have the Centerforce fly wheel.. I put it when I went to The Dual friction..Made a big differnce. I had a big hill in the middle of my gravel drive way. Before if I stopped in the middle of the hill, I would have to slip the clutch to get it moving.Very sluggish. Now,I feel comfortable stopping on most any hill. I had a noticable differnce. More low end tork. Nice if you live around a lot of hills. I'd say it was worth it.
 

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I'm also running a Centerforce flywheel and dual friction clutch. It made a big difference. The truck feels torquier on the low end and I'm able to maintain my speed on the highway a lot better.
 

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Time to buck the system <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0">

IMHO - heavy flywheels and high $$$ clutches are BAND-AIDS for your truck. They are a waste of money that is better spent on REAL performance upgrades... like the proper gearing, etc...
 

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Originally posted by DRM:
<STRONG>Time to buck the system <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0">

IMHO - heavy flywheels and high $$$ clutches are BAND-AIDS for your truck. They are a waste of money that is better spent on REAL performance upgrades... like the proper gearing, etc...</STRONG>

huh!!!!!!!!

Let see, Detroit's front and rear, 5.29 r/p, and a Marlin Crawler don't add up to "proper gearing"? Damn, I guess I got it all freakin" wrong!! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

IMHO the clutch is just another part of "proper gearing". Get a good one!!!!!!!!
All the "proper gearing" don't work if the clutch is slip'n! <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0">

[ 07-31-2001: Message edited by: crawler#976 ]
 

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Originally posted by DRM:
<STRONG>IMHO - heavy flywheels and high $$$ clutches are BAND-AIDS for your truck. They are a waste of money that is better spent on REAL performance upgrades... like the proper gearing, etc...</STRONG>
Huh??? <IMG SRC="smilies/confused.gif" border="0"> Couldn't I just as easily say that dual transfer cases are just a "band aid" for your weak ass four cylinders lack of low end torque? <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

I agree with Crawler#976, it is just another part of the equation. Of course *I* didn't have to get a heavier flywheel because my turbo truck CAME with a heavy flywheel to account for the turbo lag. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by crawler#976:
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IMHO the clutch is just another part of "proper gearing". Get a good one!!!!!!!!
All the "proper gearing" don't work if the clutch is slip'n! <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
I have a $99 Autozone clutch in my Toy that has been in there for 3 years and over 30k miles... and when it does they give me a FREE one to replace it...

I have NEVER slipped the clutch....

If you have dual cases and the right axle gearing, that $250 or whatever you spent on that clutch is WASTED MONEY that doesn't do squat to get you anywhere off road...

If you had something bigger than the 22R - maybe the high $$$ clutch would be warranted.. maybe <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by DRM:
<STRONG>Time to buck the system <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0">

IMHO - heavy flywheels and high $$$ clutches are BAND-AIDS for your truck. They are a waste of money that is better spent on REAL performance upgrades... like the proper gearing, etc...</STRONG>
I completely agree with DRM here. There really isn't any NEED for this upgrade. Geared right, and driven correctly the local parts store clutches will last a LONG time. And like DRm siad, then you just go get another one for free <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce2.gif" border="0">
 

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Does anyone know if the heavier flywheels cave off of a stock toyota drivetrain, say a turbo motor or a diesel?
If I did a mod like this I would like to get it from the P&P.
 

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Yea, I am interested in findind out if the flywheels can be pulled off of something as well. How about the 2L, is it the same bolt pattern and size?
 

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I am going to compare the 2L flywheel and the 22R's flywheel when I do the swap. I can tell you right now the teeth on the diesel flywheel are bigger.

I have heard that the 2L was made by a different company for Toyota so chances are they won't interchange.
 

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I'm with DRM on this one <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

waste of money
 

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Originally posted by 864runner:
<STRONG>I completely agree with DRM here. There really isn't any NEED for this upgrade. Geared right, and driven correctly the local parts store clutches will last a LONG time. And like DRm siad, then you just go get another one for free</STRONG>
Who is talking about clutches, the guy asked about FLYWHEELS! I don't think that hi-po clutches are necessary for stock motors either, or even preferable off-road, but a heavier flywheel will store more energy and let the motor lug down more and in that sense I think it is a good modification for a rockcrawling truck.

For the record too, I am 99% sure that turbo flywheels are different than normal 22RE flywheels and will not bolt right up.
 

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Originally posted by Dirty Harry:
<STRONG>Who is talking about clutches, the guy asked about FLYWHEELS.</STRONG>
I mentioned clutches because they are both the same thing - BAND-AIDs.

If you really want more low end "grunt" try a good cam, or MSD 6A ignition (the MSD will do wonders for keeping it running at low RMPs).
 
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