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is to much flex? The reason I ask..I have a EB that I'm thinking about doing coils on all 4. Front and rear would be wristed. But then I hear people talk about how having to much flex can hurt you on the trail. So then I was thinking..maybe keep it like the stock setup..leafs back and a wristed front. But it would be a modified leaf setup..not the exact way Ford made it. I would place the leafs under the frame or maybe inside the frame. This is a trail rig only..thing is basically a bashed up tub with a big cage. Need some input. I want something that would be stable on off camber situations..also good for long hill climbs. Midwest type of junk.
 

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No such thing as too much flex. Ask anyone that has the flex, and they will tell you the same thing. Ask the people without it, and they will say you are going way overboard. I am running a 1/4 ellip rear, and soa up front. I got some flex, but I would love some more up front. The secret is to control your flex as muych as possible. you do not want to be a flop monster because you are too soft, but you don't want to be stiff as a board. I say get it any way you can. I wouild go for it, and stretch the wheelbase non the EB at the same time too. Do coils and a 4 link, and you will be lioving life. Talk to Mike Ladd at Bent and twisted. He can help you out. Cluick on the banner above for more info on him

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I would say don't do a wristed radius arm in the rear. I have never seen this setup but when Pat Gremillion had extended radius arms on the back of his bronco he had some axle wrap problems, that is with two c bushings resisting the axle wrap. With a wristed radius arm you only get 1 C buching to resist the twist. So I say do like Flatty said and build a 4 link.
 

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I would ahve to disagree with Gordon a bit here. My bro runs radius arms front and rear, as does Mike Ladd. Neither one gets axle wrap. Personally I don't like the idea, but it does work and work well. you can do a radius arm setup with a panhard and be done wiith it.

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Originally posted by Gordon:
<STRONG>I would say don't do a wristed radius arm in the rear. I have never seen this setup but when Pat Gremillion had extended radius arms on the back of his bronco he had some axle wrap problems, that is with two c bushings resisting the axle wrap. With a wristed radius arm you only get 1 C buching to resist the twist. So I say do like Flatty said and build a 4 link.</STRONG>
Unless your design can incorporate some type of Axle Wrap Bar/Traction bar

I've seen some people use the Bronco Radius arms as Axle Wrap Bars/Traction bars..So that seems curius to me.


What kind of engine/gearing does pat run?

That might play a big roll in it.
 

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..OK Nevermind........ If mike ladd ran/runs that set-up with no problem I'd put money on the fact that it works and works well.
 

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I don't want any flex that puts all/most of the weight of the drooped tire on the extreme outside of the tire/wheel. The contact patch of the tire goes down (along with traction), and your rollover potention goes up. This point varies with each rig due to axle width, tire width, etc, etc, etc...

[ 10-04-2001: Message edited by: CheaseMuddin ]
 

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I'd guess if tires are at a 90* + angle it wouldnt really help forward progress much <IMG SRC="smilies/confused.gif" border="0">
 

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Well I have to agree and disagree once again. I can get my tire at a 90, but Istill havbe a tire touching the grtound. that will limit the rollover potential involved. And, yes, I still get traction with the tire at a 90. The tirs is still touching and moving, so the tirs still grabs somewhat, but how often is a tire at a 90, unless youa re climbing a ramp? Now I have tot ask... how many people want more flex out fo their rigs???? Most do, and there are only so many ways youcan get it.

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Originally posted by Flatty:
<STRONG>No such thing as too much flex. Ask anyone that has the flex, and they will tell you the same thing. Ask the people without it, and they will say you are going way overboard. I am running a 1/4 ellip rear, and soa up front. I got some flex, but I would love some more up front. The secret is to control your flex as muych as possible. you do not want to be a flop monster because you are too soft, but you don't want to be stiff as a board. I say get it any way you can. I wouild go for it, and stretch the wheelbase non the EB at the same time too. Do coils and a 4 link, and you will be lioving life. Talk to Mike Ladd at Bent and twisted. He can help you out. Cluick on the banner above for more info on him

Dimitri</STRONG>
I saw your flex in the box back in July and it did real well... <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">
 
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