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I have the funds to get a ford HP Kingpin 60 to go in the front of my TJ. I do not want to runner hummer rims, so I am going to narrow it to 65 inches to match my rear narrowed 60. Which, ford axle is the best for this swap a 78-79 or an 80-89 (i.e. I only want to cut the long side down, but I want the pinion to relatively line up with my T-Caseand I need room for the link setup).
 

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80-92 i belive u only have to cut down one-side. its been done on here but i cant rember who did it.
 

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you use the 80-92 style and only have to cut down the long side.
I spoke to adam at claytonoffroad not to long ago about the very topic. if you need info on it im sure those guys would be glad to assist you
 

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As was said above the later KP housings are better for that.
Invest in good grinding wheels, those inner C's have a lot of weld on them.
Took Oxy/Act and 35tons to press mine off.
 

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Thanks, I did a search for blueangel it looks like he went with a 79 60 and cout the short side down. http://www.geocities.com/rg_sabat/

I also found PT writeup he went 63 inches with using a 80-92. So it looks like I could go either way.

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Looks like blueangel just narrowed the short side to the 80's shaft. I am going to cut a 78 down 1" on the driver side to a chevy shaft length and 3" on the long side which will be custom length. This way the coil bucket will be on the tube instead of being partial on the diff.
 

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Cutting down the short side by 1" isn't going to be easy. Your inner "C" is about 2" thick where it presses on the tube, so that means when you go to press the knuckle back on, you'll be straddling the spot where the knuckle was originally welded on, which will be difficult at best. I'd either cut more, or none if I were you.
 

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Ya, that is the part I am worried about. I am just going to go slow and try not to grind more than I have too.
 

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However, looking at PTs build It looks like I would have to move the coil buckets back to clear the centersection. Looking at my jeep if the centersection is shifted too far inward it will hit the header, So I need to come up with some exact dimensions of both styles to see which one will work the best.
 

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Here's a link to pictures of how I narrowed my 79, hp60, 2.75" driver side. I didn't use a press.

Click on picture to see the whole album.

 

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Leave the front slightly wider than the rear. Most 4x4 vehicles come from the factory this way to aid the steering process. My front is ~2" wider than the rear
 

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Leave the front slightly wider than the rear. Most 4x4 vehicles come from the factory this way to aid the steering process. My front is ~2" wider than the rear
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you use the 80-92 style and only have to cut down the long side.
I spoke to adam at claytonoffroad not to long ago about the very topic. if you need info on it im sure those guys would be glad to assist you
that would be 86 to 91.5 for the knig pin, they did'nt make the 60 from 80 till 86, jason.
 

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I was doing some figuring and it may be cheaper and eaiser just to sell my rear and go fullwidth. My Dana 30 is at 75.5 inches outside of wheel to wheel (10" rims w/ 3" backspacing), If I ran a fullwidth 69.25" HP 79 60 and 5" of back spacing, with 8" rims I would be at 75".

Here is a quick Sketch I made. (by the way the sketch is based off 7" BS hummer rims)



So is there any reason I would not be able to run 5" of BS on a 60 (steering, brakes, etc.)
 

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Nope, I as most guys run H2 wheels 17x8.5 with 5.5" bs on Fullwidth 60 front. I built a 69" wms 70 rear to match the front as the dana 60 is only 66" which was to short for my liking.
 

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I was not sure I think I had heard the H2 rims were 5.5 BS, so thats good to know so I think I will just go fullwidth and make it easy on my self.

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FYI: P&Ts rig had to go bacxk to 65" WMS-WMS which caused a HUGE headache because of tire clearage...
 

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What is everyone's experience with 60's shortened to the 63-64 range and then running the 17x8.5 with 5.5" wheels? That should keep 37x12.50's under the stock "looking" 7 inch aftermarket fender flares... But how much mobility is there? And is there enough room to keep the front swaybar links away from the steering arms?
 
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