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OK, for those who of you that know your Humvee from a Hummer I need some clerification. I need to know which beadlock or beadlock/runflat is compatiable. I have the old style 8 bolt two piece rims see pic below:


I have located several different styles of lock and run flatsand I am unsure which will work so is it: A, B, C???

A.

B.

C.



Thanks in advance

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I think its D

I think you are looking for a metal inner beadlock. It is made out of magnisum and is a 2 pc. system with a runflat.

Though some of the other ones might work?

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It's D
This is what I'm using, Two piece Magnesium beadlock/runflat. I'd rather have the one piece rubber beadlock.
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I think you want either b or the magnesium ones that are not shown
I on the other hand need those shown in picture A
where can I get them?

by the way C is for a one piece rim
A and B are for a two piece rim, but I think they are only for the 12 bolt rim.
This however may be incorrect, they may also work with the 8 bolt 2 piece rim, but I'm sure the 8 bolt works with the magnesium
 

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I don't have the answer to your question, but I'm in the same boat as you. I'd appreciate it if you'd either post here or e-mail me where you can purchase the runflats.

Thanks

Oops, it's [email protected]

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Unfortunately, this is a private individual and what you see is all he has. I am only looking for the appropriate lock for my 5 rims (8 bolt style) the remaining locks I would be willing to sell. I plan to pick them up in mid Nov.

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with all this talk about hummer rims, does anyone have a source for the two piece rims (preferably wiht the bead lock setup, as opposed to the run flats? I'm looking for a set for when I put my 60's under the EB...
 

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Pic 1: 2 piece Military Bias Ply (8 Bolt) rim

Pic 2: The top rubber donuts "look" to be the rubber 2 piece beadlocks, but they are thinner than than the ones I have seen.

From the width, it looks like you should stack two per tire. This is what you want.

For Civilian 2 piece, the rubber beadlock looks exactly like pic 2, only it's twice as wide.

Pic 3: Civilian Two Piece integrated runflat/beadlock. - I've never used one on a military Bias ply rim, so I don't know if it would work. From looking at it, it might.

Pic 4: Civ ilian ONE Piece Beadlock (outer bead only) - Not for your application

Pic 4: Civilian One Piece Runflat (under the one piece civ beadlock) - Not for your application
 

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wolf,

are there any industrial application pieces or rubber tubbing that can be cut and used as the beadlock in picture A so that those of us with the 2 piece rims (civilan or military) can have beadlocks?

have you explored this at all?

if not could you give us the specs on that rubber that you are using as beadlock like size thickness inner and outer diameter are the edges square or angled or bevelled or what?

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Originally posted by fcfred:
<STRONG>wolf,

are there any industrial application pieces or rubber tubbing that can be cut and used as the beadlock in picture A so that those of us with the 2 piece rims (civilan or military) can have beadlocks?

have you explored this at all?

thanks</STRONG>
I never explored anything like that because the local Hummer dealer had lots of 2 piece Civilian beadlocks sitting around.

I needed 8 for my application, and got them all from the dealer for free.

Check around at local Hummer dealers. Ask for the Two Piece Civilian beadlock (the "rubber donut"). Most dealers should have some around. They would be worth it for even $50.00 each.

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Damn you guys are even confusing me. Now "at-ease" and listen up.

#1: Yes, BIAS tire rims
#2: Bead lock for radials used in conjunction with..
#3: Run Flat (for radials)(#2 & #3 stack together inside the tire/rim.
#4: I have no idea.

Now for details:

PYRO has the two piece magnesium run-flat/bead-lock. Although they are known to "walk" alittle inside the tire/rim and won't stay balanced, they are (were) much easier to install & remove.

The Bias ply rim is noticably different than the Radial rim. Although I haven't tried, I don't think the run-flats would interchange. The Bias rim had a much better O-ring seal (and could be reused) as opposed to the Radial rim that sometimes leaks after assembly and crushes the O-ring.

The Radial run-flat/bead-lock are a real PIA to install & remove. We have a special tool to bend the run-flat (pic #3) into a pretzel to insert it inside the tire. (A cynch strap will work). I have seen versions of this style marked "for BIAS USE" but have never seen them used in a Bias tire.
The newest version has both parts(#2&#3) made into one piece (extra PIA).

The last picture I haven't seen before, must be civilian Hummer only. From what I've read the Civ Hummer used several (5?) different versions of bead-locks. I only do Mil-Spec. By-the-way it may be a "run-flat", 30 miles @ 30 MPH, but a blow out at 55mph will give you nothing but shreds of rubber by the time you get to the shoulder. <IMG SRC="smilies/usa.gif" border="0">

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this is the two piece runflat on a one piece rim
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[ 10-30-2001: Message edited by: fcfred ]
 

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Crazy Fred, try your pic again. I can't figure how you got a runflat on a one piece.
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It's a runflat for the one piece wheel.

Note the hinges in the middle.

Unbolt it, spread the two arms apart and it comes off.

Same thing for the one piece beadlock. It hinges. Note that it only locks the outer bead though.

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mister daniel al la diesel

look at the last picture of the first post
ther you will see the two parts of the runflat and the hole where they bolt together
these however are not beadlocks just runflats
so I sold mine to a search and rescue team
now i'm looking for the beadlocks

too bad everyone i found wants $200 each for them
 

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Very interesting, Uncle Fred. I haven't run into that style before. Acouple of years ago I was training at Ft Bliss, when we had to assist the Brits with a runflat tire. It was pretty big (16x20?) from mine-resistant truck like you used to see in South Africa (nicknamed a Buffalo, maybe). It had a splitrim design with a locking bead. We beat on the tire with sledges (in the Texas midday sun) and pushed on the sidewall with leg of a crane trying to break the bead. I finally turned to the Scotsman Sergeant and asked him if this tire had some sort of beadlock? He replied yes. I then asked him how they broke down this sort of tire in the field. With a heavy Scottish accent he said "We don't, we use a 40ton press. There's only two in all of Britian!" <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0">
 

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Here is an email contact this morning from Hutchinson Industries Inc.

<STRONG>Could you please tell me what your pricing is for your run-flat/beadlock products? Also, what are the specs on the rims, bolts on the locks, and bolts for the rim bolt together.

Thank you,

Allen Kurtz


Reply....

"We do not give price etc.info on e-mails, please fax us your requirement,
company name, country etc. so that we cab better serve your needs."

Lalit Kumar
Manager Operations
Hutchinson Industries Inc.
460 Southard Street,
Trenton,NJ-08638, USA
Tel:609-394 1010 ext-5027
Fax:609-394 2031 </STRONG>
 
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