[HRDROKN]

Posting this here rather than the Cherokee sub-forum....

87 XJ... This was my only possible mount location for the reservoir as the traditional location wouldn't work with the coilover hoops and different master cylinder arrangement. The pic shows that I have very little room (about 6" AN to AN) to make a the #12 AN connection to the pump and the standard Fragola AN fittings make this impossible. I'm thinking possibly short barbs combined with eliminating the AN fittings altogether. I'll have to thread it all up and mount the res last...

Ant thoughts/suggestions?

 

[jonzer12]

I am in the same boat. The ONLY place I found it will mount with it being higher than the pump and still close the hood just to the driver side of the cylinder head, about 1/4 above the intake manifold right against the firewall. I am currently bending up a bracket to weld to the firewall just below the hood. The other option is to get an older PSC resevoir. The latest ones are much larger than the previous styles and give you a few more options. If your reservoir is mounted to the engine can you not run just an elbow and a short straight hose?

 

[JM93LiftedYJ]

How'bout making a bracket the attaches to the backside of the pump? Mount the reservoir there. Then you could almost use two 45º fittings to connect.

 

[climbit]

I guess I am failing to see what the problem is?

that is the pump feed line it shouldn't be high pressure. a couple of push-loc -12 fittings and a short peice of hose should be all you need. the shorter the hose is, the better it is anyway.

http://www.jegs.com/i/Aeroquip/023/FCM1515/10002/-1?parentProductId=

 

[JM93LiftedYJ]

Yea, but it looks like the feed line is horizontal on both the reservoir and the pump. Reservoir feed line needs to be higher than the feed line on the pump. Shit, my reservoir stick a foot up out of the hood. :homer:

 

[climbit]

Yea, but it looks like the feed line is horizontal on both the reservoir and the pump. Reservoir feed line needs to be higher than the feed line on the pump. Shit, my reservoir stick a foot up out of the hood. :homer:

that is a good point. the pump is fed by gravity from the reservoir, it needs to be above the pump.

http://www.pscmotorsports.com/pdf/tech/reservoir_tips.pdf

 

[kmkommes]

I would buy two hose barbs "climbit" suggested and try a short piece of rubber tubing. I had the same issue as you when I started. You cannot make an AN hose that short and flexible. It would of course be better if the reservoir was higher but it may be ok as is. If the fluid is higher in the res then it is in the pump then techinically it'll still be gravity fed.

Here are a few pictures of mine. I have the hose barbs "climbit" suggested. I believe I shortened them up by cutting off the last barb. I went to the local auto supply store and found a formed hose that had the perfect bends for my application. Much better then "bending" a straight hose.

Other thoughts...
I've thought about running a pressurized reservoir.

From this thread.
e. Ventilation and Pressurization. Most reservoirs are vented to the atmosphere. A vent opening allows air to leave or enter the space above the oil as the level of the oil goes up or down. This maintains a constant atmospheric pressure above the oil. A reservoir filter cap, with a filter element, is often used as a vent. Some reservoirs are pressurized, using a simple pressure-control valve rather than a vented one. A pressure-control valve automatically lets filtered air into a tank but prevents air release unless the pressure reaches a preset level. A pressurized reservoir takes place when the oil and air in a tank expand from heat.

I wouldn't pressurize it much though, maybe 2-5psi. Something as simple as a brake residual valve may work, I haven't thought about this in quite awhile though. I'm just throwing thoughts out there.

 

[clarke2828]

What about making a bracket that mounts it to your intake manifold and bend some aluminum or SS hard line with an females?

 

[HRDROKN]

Yep, I ordered a couple. This is the first thing I'll try... looks like it will give me about 3 inches of hose for flex.

I guess I am failing to see what the problem is?

that is the pump feed line it shouldn't be high pressure. a couple of push-loc -12 fittings and a short peice of hose should be all you need. the shorter the hose is, the better it is anyway.

Aeroquip FCM1515 Aeroquip Socketless Hose AN Fittings - Free Shipping on All Orders @ JEGS

 

[HRDROKN]

And this....

I believe I shortened them up by cutting off the last barb. I went to the local auto supply store and found a formed hose that had the perfect bends for my application. Much better then "bending" a straight hose.

 

[HRDROKN]

Nevermind.... that's not going to work either. Shortest fitting combo would be a -12AN o-ring to 3/4" hose barb and I only found that with a smooth barb (like on a cooling system). When I get home tonight I'll look at turning the reservoir 90 degrees and 180 degrees and see how that looks.

:shaking:

 

[TiTRD]

Mines mounted between the brake booster and the master cylinder with a stock bracket from PSC.

It does stick above the hood, though.

 

[MQ79]

Through the hood was the best solution I could come up for mine -

 

[kmkommes]

Smooth barb is fine. There is probably less pressure here then on a cooling system.

 

[JM93LiftedYJ]

Mine was like this. The second I went up an incline all the fluid rushed back and I lost my steering. Not trying to thrash your setup, its just the issue I had with the Zuk.

 

[chris demartini]

Don't use hose at all. Clock the pump up and use a 45* AN coupler and attach the reservoir right to the pump. build a bracket off the intake manifold for the reservoir clamp.

-10 Earl's 939210ERL
-12 Earl's 939212ERL

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/general-4x4-discussion/1180449-full-hydro-woes.html#post16384833

 

[JM93LiftedYJ]

Don't use hose at all. Clock the pump up and use a 45* AN coupler and attach the reservoir right to the pump. build a bracket off the intake manifold for the reservoir clamp.

-10 Earl's 939210ERL
-12 Earl's 939212ERL

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/general-4x4-discussion/1180449-full-hydro-woes.html#post16384833

Ah ha! This is the pic I was thinking of. I'd suggest something like this.

 

[MQ79]

Mine was like this. The second I went up an incline all the fluid rushed back and I lost my steering. Not trying to thrash your setup, its just the issue I had with the Zuk.

I'm open to suggestions. How did you fix yours?

 

[HRDROKN]

Thanks for all the input.... much appreciated!

Here is what I'm going to give a try....

-12AN 150 degree off the reservoir
-12 45 degree to the pump

I flipped the reservoir about 180 degrees to get some needed hose length and I will finalize the hose after I get the serpentine belt tensioned...





:smokin: