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First it was the "Ultimate Marfield". Stronger than a dana 44 axle. These things will be the last birfield you will ever buy.
So I bought 2 sets ($1000) and broke all of them within 6 months. (I never even broke a stock birfield before that). It took 4 months to get the first set warrentied and was basicly a bad experience from start to finish.
About the time I was ready to seriously consider going to a dana 44 front Red Line comes out with this birfield eliminator kit and it looks like just what everyone has been waiting for. No claims of indistructibility, but realistic results and in my opinion a TRUE upgrade to dana 44 LIKE strength. The bad part is ths guy is less dependable than Marlin. AND, it looks like he holds some kind of patent on the design.
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So here I am with a birfield eliminator kit that I haven't broke,YET, and no spare parts for when I do break. If I order spare axles I'm sure he will take my order and then blow me off for 6 months. I hate going wheeling with out spare parts <IMG SRC="smilies/mad.gif" border="0">
Does anyone want to sell me a axle upgrade kit for my Toyota axle??? All you got to do is promise me the world and I'll pay you whatever you want. <IMG SRC="smilies/crybaby2.gif" border="0"> I guess I have a problem learning from my mistakes.
Just venting!........ I feel better now <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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Randy's Ring and Pinion has been advertising in the mags lately that they have a birfield eliminator kit. I -think- that they are selling the Redline kit, but don't know that for a fact. Maybe they are easier to deal with than Redline, it is at least worth a call.

Let us know what you find out!
 

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DAM YOU Dirty Harry! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
I called Randy's Ring and Pinion and talked to JT (formerly with Redline Off Road) and they are going to sell a kit..............
I will start a new post so check it out.
 

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Yup, they are supposed to get a shit load of them here in like a week, and will be very nice shafts..
 

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Gents,

It is my understanding that the only modification to install the RedLine kit is to machine some material off of the back of the spindle, correct? Well, if that's all there is, could you not have a bushing made to take up this space so "if" you munched a RL shaft, you could trow in a stock Birfield?
Or is this too easy? <IMG SRC="smilies/cool.gif" border="0">

Got a price on the RedLine kit thru Randy's?

[ 10-11-2001: Message edited by: 0ILBURNER ]

...I saw the other post... $600 bucks
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[ 10-11-2001: Message edited by: 0ILBURNER ]
 

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Originally posted by OOPS:
<STRONG>Carry a spare spindle, Birfield,and Martacked long and short side axle like I do and quit your worrying.

Have you talked to Marlin about the blown Marfields?</STRONG>
Exactly what OOP's said. Man my Dana 44 has been great. to date I have only broken 2 ujoints and blown both ball-joints....sure has beat the hell outta my Bifields! Ever thought about Moser making you a set of custome shafts??? Even with the patent you could have the lenghts correctly made and then have the splines cut at a shop?
 

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FYI - I have a buddy who bought one of the first Redline kits - broke it early on. Got tired of the wait - built a 44. He has already broken 4 or 5 44 shafts (38.5's, dual cases, 22R, etc.).

IMHO - I still say 44's are not that much better than Toy axles - at least not enough that if you already have a Toy front axle, the 44 is not some super improvement. If you are SAS from scratch though, take your pick <IMG SRC="smilies/glasses.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by DRM:
<STRONG>IMHO - I still say 44's are not that much better than Toy axles...</STRONG>
I have to agree with David. (This isn't the first time, and it -still- hurts!) I break my share of D44 joints and ears. The Warn axles just went in so I'll see how those hold up, but since I'm using the spicer 297 joints I don't have all that high of hopes. I'm sure I'll throw good money after bad and invest in the first high strength 297 replacement to be readily available, probably in a new set of Warns.

It's getting to be where my front axle is like an old girlfriend... I baby her and buy her expensive stuff, and she -still- lets me down! I seem to be even more invested in making the relationship work out with my axle... I guess it hasn't gotten drunk my booze, slept with my friend, and puked on the carpet. Yet.

BTW, David, when has your opinion -ever- been humble?!?! <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by skank-the-sock-puppet:
<STRONG>BTW, David, when has your opinion -ever- been humble?!?! <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
I prefer "Honest" - as you know I tell it like I see it <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0">

About you babying your axle, I have honestly NEVER babied my Toy front axle since the day I took it out on the first trail ride...
 

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I'm building a Dana 44 to avoid all the crap I've seen going on with beefier parts for the yota axle, it just aint worth it to me. Hell its probably gonna cost the same of just building up a yota axle without upgrading the birfeilds. Both need crossover arms, both need a locker and setup, the only extra cost of the 44 is initial cost and ring and pinion gears to match my rear. Initial cost will be covered by the money I was gonna spend refurbishing my toy front, so the only extra cost is ring and pinion and maybe some alloy axle shafts (which are gonna cost less then $300) so I think it is definatly a worthwhile upgrade from toy stuff
 

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Hey desert, I have 3 out of 4 red-line axles. (both inners and 1 stub). Would make a great set of spares <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0"> I have move away from the kit because I could not get a replacement no matter how hard I tried. PM me an offer if intrested. BTW I was very happy with the kit (except for the service part). I have now broke 3 axles, 1 being a fluke, and the other was a lost joint that took out the yokes. But I have wheeled this thing hard, I'm sure I would have popped a 44 also.
 
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