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Craft beer type stuff? Let me know what you got
BCBS 2014-2017 (I think 2 bottles each)
Sucaba 2016
White Mocha
The Bruery christmas series days 3-9 (2 each, days 3 and 4 are barrel aged)
Heldorado 2016
Velvet Merkin 2016
Dark star 2016
two variants of Eclipse from 2015
Medusa from before Budweiser owned Wicked Weed
Preservation 30th anniversary from Alaska brewing company
A Deal with the Devil double oak 2018
Rumpkin 2017 (2 bottles)
Darkest Hour 2017


This probably covers most of it and it's of the top of my head. I also have homebrewing gear but that ends up not being worth it to ship.
 

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BCBS 2014-2017 (I think 2 bottles each)
Sucaba 2016
White Mocha
The Bruery christmas series days 3-9 (2 each, days 3 and 4 are barrel aged)
Heldorado 2016
Velvet Merkin 2016
Dark star 2016
two variants of Eclipse from 2015
Medusa from before Budweiser owned Wicked Weed
Preservation 30th anniversary from Alaska brewing company
A Deal with the Devil double oak 2018
Rumpkin 2017 (2 bottles)
Darkest Hour 2017


This probably covers most of it and it's of the top of my head. I also have homebrewing gear but that ends up not being worth it to ship.
Nice, I could probably help you get rid of most of that if you ever feel like shipping
 

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blackdog220- great posts, thanks for sharing.

H8DWINGS- I've posted a few times in here, as I'm also a recovering alcoholic, and will be for the rest of my life. I accept that, I actually EMBRACE that. It is who I am and I can't change that. I, like many others, can make as many excuses as I want, but the facts are what they are. Will I ever be able to have a single drink, or be that "casual" drinker, I honestly don't know, but I do know that I won't ever find out.

I've been down this road before, as I quit drinking for 3.5 years, picked it back up, convinced I was a changed man. I won't bore anyone with the details as it's the same broken record many have heard/lived... What I can say, and say it from experience, is only YOU can make the decision to stop drinking and YOU have to do it for YOURSELF. If you are making the decision to stop drinking for someone else, I'm sorry to say, you will drink again...

As was stated earlier in this thread, I also use the "I don't drink" response. I have yet to find anyone that questions that, even those that have known me for a long time. I've actually found that most, if not all, are very supportive of MY decision, and if they aren't, well, I don't need to spend much time with them.
 

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Nice, I could probably help you get rid of most of that if you ever feel like shipping
I'll look into what a fair price would be. Some still have the stickers and I am pretty sure I still have at least one 12 bottle shipper. I might give a few to a friend as gifts because he likes this stuff too and would be excited to get a 2016 Sucaba or a 2014 BCBS as a birthday gift.

Oh yeah, I forgot to add a bottle of Special Noir and something else from de Garde and a Penultimate Push from Cigar City.
 

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I figured the best way to get whatever it is I need is to tell a bunch of strangers on the internet my story.
Thats a good impulse, I really hamstrung my own sobriety by not talking about it. I tried AA and while I did learn a lot and gain perspective from it, it was not for me. I won't knock it because it has and does help people to change their lives, but it was not for me. I've found the subreddit r/stopdrinking to be immensely helpful. It serves, for me, the same function as attending meetings does for AA members; an opportunity to share and discuss and get support from people that understand what you are going through, or to just listen to the experiences of others and to learn from that. I encourage you to check that out, post if you feel comfortable doing so, but even if you just want to lurk and read I guarantee you will find something there you can relate to and hopefully gain something positive from. Good luck, I hope you're able to find something that works for you!
 

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I had been a heavy drinker since like 18-19. It got way worse when my little brother committed suicide four years ago next month. I would easily burn through 3-4 30 packs and a fifth or two of whiskey in a weekend. There’s about 18 months after his death that I only have hazy memories at best of. My wife didn’t trust me to take my kids camping, because romping around the desert with way too many beers and breaking shit on my truck was therapeutic, I thought.

Then last summer one of my good friends got hit with a dui on his way home from a wheeling trip. First offense in AZ is mandatory jail time, massive fines, a year of ignition interlock, etc etc. We had all been drinking and any of us could have been the one to get pulled over. Between seeing what that put him and his family thru, and deciding I didn’t want to lose more of my life and time with my kids in a blur, I quit cold turkey last September. I was able to stay dry for about 4 months, til the next camping trip. I took one 6 pack for a three day trip, didn’t break anything, and can actually remember the trip. Since then I’ve limited myself to one or two beers at a time, usually when I go play gigs with my band, and no liquor at all. I definitely get the urge to drink more but so far I’ve been sticking to that.

I’m probly playing with fire not to just stick to the cold turkey thing but it’s not easy. Lots of good advice and experiences in this thread!
 

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^^^^ If you can maintain and have the discipline to drink responsibly then more power to you! Trial and a great deal of error has to proven to me that that is not an option, personally, but everybody is different. Sucks for your friend but at least your wakeup call came from observation and not lived experience.

For me the biggest obstacle to sobriety is complacency. I've relapsed (hate that term, but it is what it is) four times, and each time was bc I allowed myself to believe that since I had maintained for X amount of time that things were okay and what the hell, a couple beers won't hurt. It's amazing how quickly those couple beers turn into a four day bender and there I am right back where I started, hating life and hating myself and spiraling down the drain, again.

Support is a big part of fighting that complacency. Having people to pick you up when you're down, stand with you when you're up, and call you on your shit when necessary is a powerful tool. And yes, posting online counts, it doesn't have to come in the form of baring your soul to a bunch of addicts in a church basement (unless that's what works for you, YMMV).

I would also caution against relying on your spouse or SO for that. IMO that's too much to ask. All I ask of my wife (in terms of sobriety) is to support my decision to not drink, THAT'S IT. I've put her through enough to then ask her to do that kind of emotional heavy-lifting. If -she- wants to talk about it, great, I'm happy to do it but my sobriety is not her reaponsibility.

I'll wrap this screed up by saying if you are struggling, "One day at a time" is more than than just a catchphrase. 'Im never going to drink again' is a daunting proposition, 'Im not going to drink today' is much more manageable. Rinse and repeat as often as necessary. If I can commit to brushing my teeth every day I can sure as shit commit to not cracking a beer on a daily basis.


ETA: @H8DWINGS you mentioned CBD/THC as a possible alternative. Now I can't recommend using ILLEGAL DRUGS as a cessation method but I could imagine if I were to hypothetically smoke a bowl from time to time it could certainly, hypothetically, calm that 'gotta catch a buzz' itch. You also mentioned that your wife was sober, so certainly don't put her sobriety in jeopardy and if she's not cool with it then you should respect that. If that's the case, CBD is totally non-psychoactive so maybe she would feel better about that and I did find in the early stages when I was having regular cravings that CBD helped to calm that and I still take it as I've found it does help even me out. Now whether or not it's snake oil and it's all in my head I can't say for sure, but I spend as much for a months-worth of CBD what I would spend in a few days on booze so even if it is just a jedi mind trick, fuck it, that's good enough for me. And again that's just my experience, YMMV.
 

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@quikdrummer I've made it 3 days cold turkey. I've quit/abstained previously for diets previously and this isn't much different. I think I'd be in your same shoes (playing with fire) doing the "2 drinks per day" thing unless it was ZERO tolerance and my friends/family/buddies knew it MUST be enforced. ZERO TOLERANCE. ZERO EXCUSES. I would slip once, drink a 6 pack and think "man that hurt I'm not doing that again" and do it again...because I have.
@blackdog220 THC/CBD is legal recreationally in Nevada and California. It's the "catch a buzz" thing and while I smoked occasionally like 15 years ago I'd just wonder if I'd substitute one for the other. Wife isn't sober, she offered to make the whole house sober if it would help, she just doesn't have more than a glass of wine these days. I think 2 is the most she's touched and that was probably dinner with girlfriends. I may attempt some CBD if I could find something locally that wasn't 5% THC. I think it was that SUPER relaxed (stumbling?) feeling I liked, and the taste of beer.
 

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@quikdrummer I've made it 3 days cold turkey. I've quit/abstained previously for diets previously and this isn't much different. I think I'd be in your same shoes (playing with fire) doing the "2 drinks per day" thing unless it was ZERO tolerance and my friends/family/buddies knew it MUST be enforced. ZERO TOLERANCE. ZERO EXCUSES. I would slip once, drink a 6 pack and think "man that hurt I'm not doing that again" and do it again...because I have.
@blackdog220 THC/CBD is legal recreationally in Nevada and California. It's the "catch a buzz" thing and while I smoked occasionally like 15 years ago I'd just wonder if I'd substitute one for the other. Wife isn't sober, she offered to make the whole house sober if it would help, she just doesn't have more than a glass of wine these days. I think 2 is the most she's touched and that was probably dinner with girlfriends. I may attempt some CBD if I could find something locally that wasn't 5% THC. I think it was that SUPER relaxed (stumbling?) feeling I liked, and the taste of beer.
 

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A little tip for anyone trying the "occasional moderation" thing-

Pick out the beer(s) you're going to drink and put them in their own place. I've got a beer fridge in the shop, full of all my various favorites and water, sports drink, etc. If I want to have a few beers today while I'm off work, I pick out the 3 I want and stick them in the door. When those 3 are gone, I'm done. This way you dont have to keep track of what you're doing... and long before a few beers turns into too many beers you have to make a conscience choice.

It's not foolproof, but it has worked great for me for many years (so long as I'm not hanging out with you guys). :flipoff2:
 

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Well one advantage this week for me is with all the smoke in the air I'm able to get most of my running in before work when the air is better. My brother in law started a new job and mentioned going to a bar tonight. The wife and I said to call us if he needs a ride. It's beneficial in that we can get him AND his car home instead of someone giving him a ride around town tomorrow.
 

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My brother in law started a new job and mentioned going to a bar tonight. The wife and I said to call us if he needs a ride. It's beneficial in that we can get him AND his car home instead of someone giving him a ride around town tomorrow.
Sounds like drinking is woven into the fabric of your lives.

Not judging; it's like that here too.
 

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Sounds like drinking is woven into the fabric of your lives.

Not judging; it's like that here too.
I wouldn't say it's woven into our lives. He didn't drink it was just his coworkers taking him out after work. He doesn't know anyone here he isn't related to by marriage or blood. He went out and played Pokemon all day Sunday. Video games aren't woven into the fabric of our lives.

Day seven starts today. I don't really miss waking up tired although I was a little tired from replacing the downpipe on my truck. Apparently the previous owner(s) only had a cat back exhaust. Lining up the two pipes while also trying to get the transmission dipstick back in place was fun. It made running 16 miles Sunday a little interesting and I thought I'd hurt more today but I got 7 in (7 for 7...get it?) this morning because runners are weird.

Talked with the wife about my BIL (previously quit drinking) Saturday because I THOUGHT it would be easier if him and I weren't drinking. Looks like his was short lived. I was more thinking I could help him stay sober if someone else is sober with him but whatever. It got into me drinking and ended with her saying she didn't want to be the woman who made me choose and me saying I can't ever drink again if I want to have her and my son in my life (I mention the casual/2-3 beers on the fridge door thing) because I've never stuck with a limit after a period of not drinking. My mom noticed I wasn't drinking a beer with dinner and mentioned "is it because of Chicago?" (marathon I'm running in 2 months) and it was an easy deflection for my wife/me to not have to answer it.

Honestly, just like every other time I've actually quit and been serious about it I don't miss it. I don't miss waking up feeling like poop, not being able to poop or having diaherra poop, and needing a few hours to feel functional. Now it's to a point where waking up at 4am is normal so I possibly COULD go swimming and train for a triathlon...just don't tell my wife.
 

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I wouldn't say it's woven into our lives. He didn't drink it was just his coworkers taking him out after work. He doesn't know anyone here he isn't related to by marriage or blood. He went out and played Pokemon all day Sunday. Video games aren't woven into the fabric of our lives.

Day seven starts today. I don't really miss waking up tired although I was a little tired from replacing the downpipe on my truck. Apparently the previous owner(s) only had a cat back exhaust. Lining up the two pipes while also trying to get the transmission dipstick back in place was fun. It made running 16 miles Sunday a little interesting and I thought I'd hurt more today but I got 7 in (7 for 7...get it?) this morning because runners are weird.

Talked with the wife about my BIL (previously quit drinking) Saturday because I THOUGHT it would be easier if him and I weren't drinking. Looks like his was short lived. I was more thinking I could help him stay sober if someone else is sober with him but whatever. It got into me drinking and ended with her saying she didn't want to be the woman who made me choose and me saying I can't ever drink again if I want to have her and my son in my life (I mention the casual/2-3 beers on the fridge door thing) because I've never stuck with a limit after a period of not drinking. My mom noticed I wasn't drinking a beer with dinner and mentioned "is it because of Chicago?" (marathon I'm running in 2 months) and it was an easy deflection for my wife/me to not have to answer it.

Honestly, just like every other time I've actually quit and been serious about it I don't miss it. I don't miss waking up feeling like poop, not being able to poop or having diaherra poop, and needing a few hours to feel functional. Now it's to a point where waking up at 4am is normal so I possibly COULD go swimming and train for a triathlon...just don't tell my wife.

"I wouldn't say it's woven into our lives."


It is dude. Just like the majority of us. Read that first sentence and then read the rest of your paragraph. Replace booze with a hard drug and then read it.

My family and friends all drink. Doesn't matter what the occasion, there is booze. It's always been like that, always will. I can't change them and honestly I don't care to. I can change me though.


I've been sober 4 months. Since I was 15 this is the longest I have ever gone without a buzz. I started it cause I was fat and was trying to stop being fat. Now I don't drink cause I feel really good.

Good luck man.
 

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Drinking 'culture' is woven into most people's lives to a pretty shocking degree if you step back and look at it. A lot of borderline and even outright abusive behaviours are condoned if not encouraged. Day drinking, hair of the dog, 'wine moms', nobody really bats an eye and if one were to object you would be labelled a prude and a killjoy. But like the last poster mentioned, replace the booze in any of those scenarios with a couple bumps and the perception is wildly different.
 

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Drinking 'culture' is woven into most people's lives to a pretty shocking degree if you step back and look at it. A lot of borderline and even outright abusive behaviours are condoned if not encouraged. Day drinking, hair of the dog, 'wine moms', nobody really bats an eye and if one were to object you would be labelled a prude and a killjoy. But like the last poster mentioned, replace the booze in any of those scenarios with a couple bumps and the perception is wildly different.
I have been around drinking my whole life, and I never condoned any of this behavior. alcohol has never been an expectable excuse in my book. if you can't handle it don't drink it. but many do use it as an excuse.
 

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"I wouldn't say it's woven into our lives."


It is dude. Just like the majority of us. Read that first sentence and then read the rest of your paragraph. Replace booze with a hard drug and then read it.
So some people want to hang out at a bar and I can't go because that means alcohol is woven in my life? Do friends and family drink? yes. Do they also break the law? sure. I wouldn't say I'm woven in to a life of crime but with your logic I am. I run so does it mean running marathons is woven into their life or do they just know a guy who runs? I have friends who don't drink or have alcohol in their house. It doesn't mean they're against alcohol. They've gone to social gatherings with people who drink and ordered something else. Is alcohol woven in to their lives?

I agree with gunracer1 about alcohol tolerance. PLENTY of situations exist where having alcohol isn't tolerated. I can't be at work drinking. I can't drink until I puke and still have people want to hang out. Some families are okay with cocaine use as well. Other people don't care if you smoke marijuana. My brother in law went to a bar with people and didn't drink. I even offered to give him a ride if he wanted to drink. He went there to hang out. He could have hung with people doing coke and played video games without telling me and I'd have given him a ride home.

congratulations on being sober 4 months. Keep going.
 

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So some people want to hang out at a bar and I can't go because that means alcohol is woven in my life? Do friends and family drink? yes. Do they also break the law? sure. I wouldn't say I'm woven in to a life of crime but with your logic I am. I run so does it mean running marathons is woven into their life or do they just know a guy who runs? I have friends who don't drink or have alcohol in their house. It doesn't mean they're against alcohol. They've gone to social gatherings with people who drink and ordered something else. Is alcohol woven in to their lives?

I agree with gunracer1 about alcohol tolerance. PLENTY of situations exist where having alcohol isn't tolerated. I can't be at work drinking. I can't drink until I puke and still have people want to hang out. Some families are okay with cocaine use as well. Other people don't care if you smoke marijuana. My brother in law went to a bar with people and didn't drink. I even offered to give him a ride if he wanted to drink. He went there to hang out. He could have hung with people doing coke and played video games without telling me and I'd have given him a ride home.

congratulations on being sober 4 months. Keep going.
Man I ain't fighting with ya. Just saying that once you step back you will see how much its effects everyone and everything and they don't even realize it.

Good luck on everything but running so got damn much. You should stop that for sure :flipoff2:
 

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Man I ain't fighting with ya. Just saying that once you step back you will see how much its effects everyone and everything and they don't even realize it.

Good luck on everything but running so got damn much. You should stop that for sure :flipoff2:
Running sucks. Ask me how I know. Want to know the difference between Gatorade and beer? No one gets upset with you for drinking 16 bottles of Gatorade. :D Not arguing just not understanding I guess.

I think I'll start seeing it more and more often, get to the "I don't like being around drunk people" then get to the "na drunk people are funny because they don't know how stupid they're acting" phase. I can tell you it's easier to spot the red eyes in people already and that's just because I'm sober. I can see why my wife doesn't like seeing me that way when she sees her father like that at times. The difference is she can't change who her father is but she can change who her husband is.
 
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