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I cut back because the Dr. said I had some signs of peripheral neuropathy caused by B-12 deficiency. That's basically stabbing pins and needles. Alcohol messes with your body's ability to metabolize the B-complex vitamins.

She gave me some supplements and they didn't really work, which I suppose is the Dr's way of demonstrating that it doesn't matter what you do, alcohol intake is the problem.

However, after cutting my drinking in ~1/2, the condition cleared up. Really, about 10 days after the Dr. visit, cleared right up.

My blood work keeps coming back good too. I'm convinced by research my cholesterol is in balance due to my copious intake of ethanol. Very good science for that.

I know that sobriety/12-step people are just praying as hard as they can for me to have a big systemic failure :laughing: Sorry boys, I've been to a thousand of your meetings, I know exactly how your little minds think.

However, the damage done to my life by those hysteric Puritans is irrevocable. To them, it doesn't matter, since they lost limbs, killed their kids, killed someone, etc, so the fact I will never have anything allowed in my life except material possessions is nothing to them. And, as I found out, the rest of society outside sobriety circles was eager to throw my life away, they couldn't work fast enough to fuck me up, even before I drank alcohol :laughing:

So I'll tip a G&T back for you guys, since I know none of you like that drink :puke: My greatest self-inflicted health problem right now is my intake of Carbs.
 

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I've been following this thread for awhile now. I've been a steady drinker of 3-4 drinks a night for a long time. Always had a good time playing league darts, hanging out in a comfy local bar for other events. Recently, the bar I hung out at closed, so I switched to a different bar. I realized I was leaving my truck there more often, I think due to stronger pours and some depression issues that caused me to go "Just one more." often over my normal limit... I also found myself being a bigger asshole to the sometimes-kinda-sorta-girlfriend, and the smallest things would set me off when I got home.

So I started thinking about cutting back, but either a shit day made me want to numb myself, or just the habit or boredom found me in the bar hanging out again, even without darts or football. I then started getting mad at myself about it, thinking I screwed up again, and then the attitude would tank again, and then that would make me want another drink. This has continued for a couple of months.

Now, I am preparing for inner ear surgery, and the doc said to stop all booze, ibuprofen, multi-vitamins, and energy drinks a week before the procedure. So that was a kick to actually be far more conscious about it, rather than allow myself fall into the habit.

So now I am 4 days without a drink. I know that doesn't sound like much, but it's probably been 10-12 years that I've gone that long without even a beer in that time period. Even in that time, I've been able to go to the bar and just have a soda and water. (This bar is also where I eat a lot of my meals) My procedure is coming up this Wednesday, and after that, I know I'll be on the couch for almost a week just trying to recover. So in interest of the procedure, I will have been forced to go 2 weeks without drinking, and I'm not sure I can say when I've gone that long without a drink.

I don't know if I am or just think I am, but I seem to be sleeping better already. I was able to get up this morning and get some errands done, where before on a Saturday morning I would have nursed some coffee on the sofa, before going back up to retrieve my truck. So I am going to continue the non-drinking after this surgery, and see what happens.

Thanks for listening. I can't post this on Facebook or anything, because I don't want to worry Mom, as many on her side of the family were alcoholics, and I've pretty much hidden it from the family.
All the stuff I highlighted is SOOOOOOOO familiar. A "shit day" will do it every time. Drinking doesn't make the day any better and numbing it doesn't FIX the day. Being an asshole won't change and having gone through some depression (which I realized about a month AFTER it started) issue myself I realized there is more important shit to worry about. Getting mad because you tried something, failed, and had to start completely over sucks and I did it a few times.

Good job on going to the bar and not drinking. It shows you CAN do it and still keep the same friends. I started drinking soda (Dr. Pepper, Sprite/7up, etc.) and while it's not the same I kind of try and drink less of it. Plus I don't wake up feeling like shit after having 7 Dr Peppers like I would after 7 6%+ beers. Heck even two rockstars ( I LOOOOOVE Rockstars) doesn't fuck with my sleep as much as alcohol did.

I'm somewhere around 90s (actually I think it's 3 months tomorrow) and was thinking about this thread. Drunk people amuse me. Well...FUN drunk people. If you're a mean asshole I'm not laughing. I went to a SF Giants game and the 6 people next to me brought in a bag of ice, a BUNCH of cups, a handle of Captian Morgna, a flask of Tito's Vodka, and offered me some. "Na I'm good but DAMN y'all brought like the WHOLE bar." The three guys with them were FUCKING WASTED and when they walked past me to get to their seats the sentence "yeah I'm too drunk right now to walk over the seats behind you" amazed me for a 12:00 game. It ended up being 88F, they left for shade and the guys behind them mentioned how every other word from the guys was 'an F bomb' but at least the ladies were having fun drinking. I realized after they left I'd have had at least two $15+ beers at that game and ended up spending that on dinner with the wife, and parking. I aint got money for $30-60 in beer at a game. Heck even at a local baseball game they were $8 and I thought "jesus fuck I use to buy at least three of those."

I'm still broke (cheap) but at least it feels better than hungover and broke. Oh and my 20 month old kid isn't sleeping through the night so being in there for an hour or so around 2:00am and still functional around 5:30am to make breakfast, lunch, change him and let the wife sleep past her alarms was nice. NO WAY I'd have been able to be woken up had I drank my usual 6 pack of drunk juice on a Sunday night. On top of my cholsesterol being it's lowest, running getting better, and my "not race" going VERY well (still fucking sucked worse than a hangover while doing it) I'm glad I quit MOST of the time. Sometimes I still just wanted to drink a few too many beers, get that "hard buzz" going again and remind myself why I quit, but 90 days is kind important. Heck....that's like 20 days away from the record I set earlier this year.

I did enjoy watching the 50-90 year old family who visited for Hot August Nights get wasted for two dinners I went over there. Especially when I told one "Don't leave a soldier a soldier on the battlefield as she pours all but two shots of vodka out of the handle they've killed in two days. She said "no I have to go light. My sister wants to stay up and talk since we don't see each other often. We've been going to bed early because we've been dinking all day." Imagine that. Wasted half your vacation drunk or in bed recovering from drinking.


Evernoob Weird how when we quit drinking that cholesterol number magically fits into the box. Dr. asks what's different and you're sitting there thinking "I don't drink a 6 pack a night?" Now Carbs....fuck THOSE things. I remember my dad going to chocolate when he quit drinking. I'm doing the same thing with ice cream (HALO ice cream because it has less sugar), soda, and pretty much anything a 10-15 year old boy would eat in excess. I justify it by running a shit ton, and kind of try to mix my Gatorade 50% with water. Can't say I drank many Gin and tonics but now I'm drinking a ton of Bubly (sparkling water) so I guess that's kind of the same as tonic water. Plus way less sugar than soda, and about $4/12 pack. I don't think my wife has a problem with me buying 3 12 packs of sparkling water for $15 vs a 36 pack of Coors Light.
 

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What is everyone's description / definition of an alcoholic? I see people posting saying they are done with a 30 pack or two/week, and I'm over here thinking I'll go through that in a work week alone, not to mention another 50-60 beers and a bottle or two on the weekend.. I'm 24 and I am constantly on time to work, I have a college degree, make all payments, etc.

I have never considered myself an alcoholic just a professional good timer. I don't think I plan on quitting anytime soon and have never really thought about it as a problem until reading this thread. Sure my friends and I will joke about it on a Saturday morning or something after a long evening or weekend but that's about the extent of it.

I am single with no family so that might be a part of it.

Thoughts?
Well almost a year later and still 50-80 beers a week and some whiskey (always more intake during the summer on the lake). I still think about quitting often but haven't been able to control myself that much. I check this thread weekly and props to those that have managed to do it. I really want to limit drinking to weekends and vacations but I haven't been able to do that much either. I did switch to natty lights so at least I cut my carb intake in half. That being said yesterday was 4 weeks without a cigarette. I feel REALLY good about that one. Maybe alcohol is the next step.
 

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Well almost a year later and still 50-80 beers a week and some whiskey (always more intake during the summer on the lake). I still think about quitting often but haven't been able to control myself that much. I check this thread weekly and props to those that have managed to do it. I really want to limit drinking to weekends and vacations but I haven't been able to do that much either. I did switch to natty lights so at least I cut my carb intake in half. That being said yesterday was 4 weeks without a cigarette. I feel REALLY good about that one. Maybe alcohol is the next step.
How many eggs you eat on the weekends?
 

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Hahahah well I do now as well as feeling like a dipshit.. Long day at work :homer: I need a beer.....
Just one? Shit....From your posts I'd say you're long day needs at LEAST 18. :flipoff2:


Those days never go away. Numbing the pain works for a while but truthfully, it never goes away. Even today I'm having a bad day and I'd really like to go get a nice hard buzz and not have to think about it for a few hours, but when I wake up it is no different than it was before AND I feel like shit.
 

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So after 9 years with no booze, I’m damn near close to throwing in the towel and starting back up. :( I just miss it, how sick is that?
Not sick. Not even surprised. I joke about getting drunk at times nd other times I think ‘yeah I’d really like to just be alone and drink myself stupid. It was so much fun.’ Or ‘I had a bad day’ like today. 9 years a WAY longer than my 90 days. Just as easy to quit though.
 

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So after 9 years with no booze, I’m damn near close to throwing in the towel and starting back up. :( I just miss it, how sick is that?
Think this through. Whatever was going on that made you quit in the first place will be back and more. Do you think you’re cured, or just willing to go back to where you left off because it seems better than where you are now?
 

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Think this through. Whatever was going on that made you quit in the first place will be back and more. Do you think you’re cured, or just willing to go back to where you left off because it seems better than where you are now?
Cured, he’ll no. I think about drinking EVERYDAY and have thought it everyday since I quit.

I can’t really explain it other than the thinking about it is just tiresome. I miss the numbing it gave me to stress, the fun guy it turned me into, the friends I lost when I quit, the smell of that hard liquor, I miss my big blue cup. I know I sound like a little bitch, but when I quit, I really didn’t think it would still be this hard this many years in. The older I get, the more stress I get and I want that outlet back. The only thing that keeps me from buying a bottle is the fact that I know I’m struggling with it so hard.
 

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Cured, he’ll no. I think about drinking EVERYDAY and have thought it everyday since I quit.

I can’t really explain it other than the thinking about it is just tiresome. I miss the numbing it gave me to stress, the fun guy it turned me into, the friends I lost when I quit, the smell of that hard liquor, I miss my big blue cup. I know I sound like a little bitch, but when I quit, I really didn’t think it would still be this hard this many years in. The older I get, the more stress I get and I want that outlet back. The only thing that keeps me from buying a bottle is the fact that I know I’m struggling with it so hard.
Just from the outside looking in... only going by what you've posted here...

You don't seem to be in a good place to just recreation/ moderately drink. It seems like it could very quickly turn into a problem. Maybe worse than before you stepped away. Not judging- I just have some experience with problem drinking.
 

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I need to stop again.

Had a year under my belt and then did the "I can just drink occasionally"

That quickly turned into drinking all the fucking time and getting not much done.

Fucking stupid.

I hate it.
 
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