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ya it sucks! so unless yours looks like this quit posting ifs crap on this BB. <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">
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Thats a pretty shallow,narow minded outlook <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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For hard core rockcrawling;IFS SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!But, for snow and sand you can't beet toyota ifs up.its strong and easier to conroll at high speed on the mogles. that GM/nissan/and ford crap just sucks period.tortion bars should be above the frame.not the lowest part of the rig. <IMG SRC="smilies/crybaby2.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/crybaby2.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/crybaby2.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/crybaby2.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/crybaby2.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by camo:
<STRONG>ya it sucks! so unless yours looks like this quit posting ifs crap on this BB. <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">
<IMG width=240 height=180 SRC="http://www.pirate4x4.com/ubb/uploads/ifssucks.jpg"</STRONG>

Now that's what IFS shoulda looked like from the factory.
 

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Originally posted by Wrench:
<STRONG>Opinions vary.</STRONG>
Yeah mr camo

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cause I was reading this new magazine where the guy said that a stock TOYOTA (yes with IFS, cause they come with em ya know) outwheeled a JEEP and a HUMMER <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"> so who's laughing now?
 

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Originally posted by Moab Austin:
<STRONG>Yeah mr camo

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cause I was reading this new magazine where the guy said that a stock TOYOTA (yes with IFS, cause they come with em ya know) outwheeled a JEEP and a HUMMER <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"> so who's laughing now?</STRONG>
Hummer's are fully independent suspension.
 

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Originally posted by imuzme's bro aka brokdik:
<STRONG>For hard core rockcrawling;IFS SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!But, for snow and sand you can't beet toyota ifs up.</STRONG>
The thing is, last time I looked, this was an extreme (forgive the overused term) 4WD website, with a very heavy emphasis on rockcrawling in particular. No dumb-ass stereo questions, or "where do I get blue headlights" bullshit. The massive influx of "newbies" have attempted to severely water down the content of the BBS to what you would find at ORC or 4X4Wire. I guess they all got bored wherever they were and decided to check out the "mean" website, where everyone is rude and crude. I've gotten and used (and given) lots of valuable information since I've been here, but it's just ridiculous to see "carb to EFI swap" questions every week, for example. Don't even get me started on the jackasses who think if you dent your rig you're a bad driver.....

Whew, what a rant! All I really wanted to say was FAWK THE NEWBIES.

And to stay on topic: IFS sucks.

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[ 10-27-2001: Message edited by: Bad Karma ]
 

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Originally posted by Bad Karma:
<STRONG>Don't even get me started on the jackasses who think if you dent your rig you're a bad driver.....</STRONG>
But you ARE a bad driver! <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">
Well said......
 

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Originally posted by zags:
<STRONG>But you ARE a bad driver! <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
That's beside the point. <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

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Originally posted by Bad Karma:
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Don't even get me started on the jackasses who think if you dent your rig you're a bad driver.....

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[ 10-27-2001: Message edited by: Bad Karma ]</STRONG>
,HAHAHHAAHAHAAHAHAH
i got a scratch, how can i buff it out <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by zags:
<STRONG>But you ARE a bad driver! <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">
Well said......</STRONG>
no i think if you dont dent it, youre a puss, dents happen, its all part of the game
 

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Originally posted by rokcrawla:
<STRONG>no i think if you dont dent it, youre a puss, dents happen, its all part of the game</STRONG>
thats no sheee-it !......
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AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Originally posted by Bad Karma:
<STRONG>The thing is, last time I looked, this was an extreme (forgive the overused term) 4WD website, with a very heavy emphasis on rockcrawling in particular. No dumb-ass stereo questions, or "where do I get blue headlights" bullshit. The massive influx of "newbies" have attempted to severely water down the content of the BBS to what you would find at ORC or 4X4Wire. I guess they all got bored wherever they were and decided to check out the "mean" website, where everyone is rude and crude. I've gotten and used (and given) lots of valuable information since I've been here, but it's just ridiculous to see "carb to EFI swap" questions every week, for example. Don't even get me started on the jackasses who think if you dent your rig you're a bad driver.....

Whew, what a rant! All I really wanted to say was FAWK THE NEWBIES.

And to stay on topic: IFS sucks.

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[ 10-27-2001: Message edited by: Bad Karma ]</STRONG>

Excellent points.
The massive influx of newbies (myself included)might have something to do with this being the most "rewarding" of off-road sites, i.e. humour, flaming, this-vs.-that threads, etc.
Gawd, i love this place, it's a welcomed sickness.!
And BTW........IFS "this" and IFS "that" <IMG SRC="smilies/question.gif" border="0">

IFS WORKS, just ask toyota engineers.
 

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Got valiums?????????? <IMG SRC="smilies/beer.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/beer.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/beer.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/blender.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0">
 

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Just to stay on topic: FAWK THE NEWBIES, oh, and IFS sucks too. <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/skull.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/skull.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/skull.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/usa.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/usa.gif" border="0">
 
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