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National quarantines, curfews, and travel restrictions will happen in the next 24 to 36 hours.
and people will exclaim "it is for the NATIONAL good!" "look at italy, 7% death rate!" "you are a racist if you think this is over-reacting" "the fact that you think this is over-reacting, just proves that it works and was just and good" "always err on side of caution"
 

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and people will exclaim "it is for the NATIONAL good!" "look at italy, 7% death rate!" "you are a racist if you think this is over-reacting" "the fact that you think this is over-reacting, just proves that it works and was just and good" "always err on side of caution"
yup.

And precedent set. Water boils.

But... safety
 

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Que White House National quarantine/curfew declaration briefing...3...2...1...





Local surgeons are saying it’s coming. We shall see.
 

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As coronavirus spreads, 6 Bay Area counties will be ordered to ‘shelter in place’

The order will come from public health officials in six counties around the Bay — San Francisco, Santa Clara, San Mateo, Marin, Contra Costa and Alameda. It will last for at least two weeks and could be extended for a third week, Goethals said.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-03-16/nine-san-francisco-bay-area-counties-ordered-to-shelter-in-place?fbclid=IwAR3c5He4kFcAYJ0Bw22bLKytiLDtNsLAbrQSyYbJKR_mx3g8X6JnjWv1xq4

And...GO!
 

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i mean, that is a valid position.

it isn't like they can cure a virus. all they do is treat symptoms. if you aren't dying you don't NEED to go to the hospital. all that would be doing is adding to the panic/stretching resources/wasting beds/wasting time.

not like a broken bone where it can be set and cast. much easier to put yourself into bed and treat the symptoms by yourself compared to doing your own set and cast on an arm

if you are dying, go to the hospital

edit: that highlights a huge issue that i have with the single payer systems, they want to run everybody to the hospital because "it's a right" so there is no incentive to self ration. there's already too many fuckwits that run to the ER with a sniffle for no reason.
:laughing: i agree, i just wanted to get tested/see if testing is available

(my work had a small corony scare and everyone started freaking out :rolleyes:)
 

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People calling these measures too drastic or part of some NWO plan should take a look at what happens when you don't try and flatten the curve. I've been saying this for a while, that there are not going to be enough available ventilators if it really gets going in the older population.


It's a given that epidemiologists and specialists alike are our think tank for the time being. News is traveling faster than the virus and not much of it is good. I'm not paranoid but I'm not avoiding getting educated by the daily uptick in real time of the stats either. Community transmission of it is said to be unstoppable for months to come. Even greater than a year from its onset. Rapid pace we're looking at. Inevitable that no measures whatsoever can slow it down when you're this far behind it, which in the united states means... people will die.
 

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As coronavirus spreads, 6 Bay Area counties will be ordered to ‘shelter in place’


That is a bigly and scary word.
What is someone refuses? What if 100,000 refuse and are out and about?

What about the homeless population that "shelters in place" anywhere and everywhere?

Should be interesting
 

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People calling these measures too drastic or part of some NWO plan should take a look at what happens when you don't try and flatten the curve. I've been saying this for a while, that there are not going to be enough available ventilators if it really gets going in the older population.
Governors were told to not wait on the feds. Go ahead and buy ventilators
 

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As coronavirus spreads, 6 Bay Area counties will be ordered to ‘shelter in place’


That is a bigly and scary word.
What is someone refuses? What if 100,000 refuse and are out and about?

What about the homeless population that "shelters in place" anywhere and everywhere?

Should be interesting
Saw this for Santa Clara County (one of the 6): https://www.sccgov.org/sites/phd/DiseaseInformation/novel-coronavirus/Pages/order-health-officer-031620.aspx?fbclid=IwAR0d8MKg9_-6LbYoSUal3OC6EHA29-K3rBGCyswRPi8LbovaxC1vpXj6BQU


Violation of or failure to comply with this Order is a misdemeanor punishable by fine, imprisonment, or both. (California Health and Safety Code § 120295, et seq.)
Not a fan.
 

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The wife is an RN at a medium sized hospital just west of Denver. She had to choice to volunteer to work on the beer virus unit or not and did. If they aren't working on a beer virus floor they are given 1 N95 mask a day and have to wear it all day. They have moved some units around to allow for more negative pressure beer virus rooms and all elective procedures are canceled. If you are a normal floor nurse on a floor that sees a lot of surgery patients times are going to be rough. I'm not sure how many ventilators they have at the hospital but I'm sure they are all on standby.

Colorado Governor just closed all sit down restaurants and bars but grocery stores, banks, and take out is still open. I totally had a brain fart today and forgot to put a pretty sizable check in the bank, hopefully they are open tomorrow. Rumor has it from a semi reliable source 2-4 weeks of quarantine is coming down the pipeline and the national guard is on standby. Hopefully they will let health care workers go home at night but if not the dog and I will survive while the wife gets stuck at work.

We'll see what happens. I think we have enough food on hand and the wife should keep working, though I'm going to probably see what's on the shelf at the grocery store tomorrow morning when I get off work. As of now my work is business as usual but if ore prices tank (they probably will with low oil prices and a big slow down in manufacturing) we'll probably be laid off. I stocked up on what I think I need to finish a bunch of jeep projects and might as well take advantage of some hopefully paid time off.

This could be very ugly and is exposing a lot of weak points in America. My hope is once this all blows over people will pull theirs heads out of their asses but I don't have a whole lot of faith in people. I know this reminded me we need a "go box" emergency kit and more emergency supplies on the shelf. I've got our go box half done and replenished the emergency supplies that either got eaten up or went bad.

Hopefully they will start pushing some ready.gov commercials and reminding people to stock up. I'm guessing Dave Ramsey types will figure out how to make a killing off this once it's over when people realize how vulnerable their finances are and how fucked they are if they can't work for a month.
 

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As coronavirus spreads, 6 Bay Area counties will be ordered to ‘shelter in place’


That is a bigly and scary word.
What is someone refuses? What if 100,000 refuse and are out and about?

What about the homeless population that "shelters in place" anywhere and everywhere?

Should be interesting
Simple two tiered justice system which is easier to force on the sheeple. Example Co workers are all addicted to mountaineering now. Regulations says have to carry shit bags with them to carry their duces around like people walking their dogs meanwhile homeless can shit with impunity wherever they so choose.
 

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16 MAR*LET’S KEEP THINKING CAREFULLY ABOUT ‘NOVEL’…AMERICAN FREEDOM

The ‘novel’ coronavirus and governmental actions in response are wearing thin. The collapse of the US economy and stock market looks a little too much like what the Chinese and the American left want to happen; the federal and especially state governments are acting a little too much like the fundamentally transformed government Obama and his leftist acolytes have longed for.

Consider:

The steps of government control that the left would desire as part of combating climate change—which Americans have resisted to the hilt in the name of preserving freedom and sanity—Americans are now accepting. Government is ordering legitimate businesses to shut down; their businesses (and their customers) can just shut up and take it. We excuse these same steps of government control we previously rejected, when taken to combat the coronavirus.

The climate change alarmists say we’re all going to die in 12 years if we don’t do what they say, and we laugh; the coronavirus alarmists apparently imply we’re all going to die in 60-90 days if we don’t do what they say, and we salute. (More accurately, and even worse in terms of assessing the over-reaction, they actually imply only that those over 80 years old will die; the rest may get a bad cold)

Both sets of alarmists use computer models to ‘prove’ the inevitable catastrophes that await. With climate change we know computer models predict what computer models are programmed to predict, and their extensive record of false predictions turns us away.

With coronavirus we still know that computer models predict what computer models are programmed to predict, but in the context of the coronavirus, we assume their accuracy and bow accordingly.

And even if we acknowledge the coronavirus computer models might be inaccurate, we’re all herded to agree that even if the predictions later prove inaccurate, there’s too much risk not to act now to shut down everything. This is exactly the same argument the climate change alarmists have been making for years.

The only rationale for accepting this climate change/coronavirus dichotomy is the belief that the ‘science’ of understanding the coronavirus and pandemics is much more settled and certain than the ‘science’ of climate change; plus the notion that individual health is more important than earth’s health, and is directly implicated with the virus but not with climate change.

Is that rationale worth cratering the US economy and stock market, devastating the 401k’s of almost everyone, and putting millions out of work? When did Americans give their ‘informed consent’ to this?

Americans are extraordinarily resourceful in adapting to just about any crisis…if they are allowed to exercise their freedom to do so. Does every restaurant really need to close? As has been noted elsewhere, is it not possible to create more distance between tables? To use plastic utensils? To let the American people decide for themselves whether to go out to eat at their favorite neighborhood restaurant?

Or is the only possible answer to order every restaurant owner to shut down, and order every citizen to eat at home? The question answers itself.

The price America is paying for its reaction to the coronavirus is wildly out of proportion to its ‘proven’ danger. Worldwide deaths are still under 6,000 amid a global population of 7.8+ Billion. Deaths in America are under 65 in a country of 330 Million.

It’s time to blow the whistle, acknowledge this reality, and start asking harder questions about who is benefiting from this ridiculously out of proportion reaction. Here are two answers: China is thrilled to see the price being paid by America; and the Democrat/MSM/Deep State/left is thrilled to see the price being paid by Americans during the presidency of Donald Trump. (And thanks to Rush Limbaugh drawing attention to the swine flu ‘epidemic’ of the Obama/Biden years, we know there were more than 12,000 American deaths and not a peep of panic or concern out of the Democrat/MSM/Deep State/left that was in control. Why the difference? The easy answer of TDS in 2020 is a start, but it’s not enough).

Americans are starting to feel stampeded by what increasingly feels like the work of the Chinese Communist Party and/or of puppet-masters like George Soros. They’ve been cautiously accepting that the burden of proof for justifying resistance to their own health ‘experts’ is on the American people. And nobody wants to be accused of wearing a tin foil hat. Fair enough for awhile; Americans should assume the good faith of American officials. But what if they are being played?

Soon the American people are going to demand a shift in the burden of proof back to the coronavirus alarmists—why is all of this so clearly necessary?Why are we accepting without question every worsening prediction of computer models?

If the suicide rate among Americans who lose their job and lose everything in the stock market starts to exceed the mortality rate from the coronavirus–what’s the plan then?

What the hell is going on?

https://americacanwetalk.org/lets-keep-thinking-carefully-about-novelamerican-freedom/
 

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