Unfortunately remediation work is extremely slow, expensive and not much of a priority. If it was a chem site, then it can take well over 10 years. That is at least level 2 gear. Some remediation on UXO sites are going on over 10 years now. Some sites are still untouched from WWII. They have mustard and all sorts of other agents in them.We don't need more room, we need to clean up the room we have. BETTER MANAGEMENT!!!
Your the man Jeff. Thank you for all your hard work :mr-t:Thank you to the Marines that have replied in this thread for your dedication to serving our country. It is for you that I have dedicated so much time fighting this expansion. My father is a Marine, My Step father is a Marine, My grandfather is a Marine.
^x1000!Your the man Jeff. Thank you for all your hard work :mr-t:
Thank you to the Marines that have replied in this thread for your dedication to serving our country. It is for you that I have dedicated so much time fighting this expansion. My father is a Marine, My Step father is a Marine, My grandfather is a Marine. They all told me when I was young they served so I would not have to. To this day I regret not serving my country.
In my eyes it is the greatest sign of respect I can give to the Marine Corps. Exercising the freedom to participate in government is something multiple generations of Marines have fought for. If I do anything less than exhaust every effort fighting base expansion all is for not.
We are taking the fight to the Marine Corps not as an enemy, but as a worthy opponent. Win Lose or draw, I know we gave them a hell of a fight, and anything less would lack the respect the greatest fighting force in the world deserves.
This is not over, we are still very much in the fight, and are starting to see some of our efforts come to fruition. With a wink at Sun Tzu "We have given them a golden bridge to retreat across".
I don't plan of stopping.
Jeff, i think all marines who enjoy johnson valley appreciate what you are doing, and i highly doubt that any take personal offense to your opposition of the marine corps.
After all, it would be unfortunate to return home from fighting for someone else’s freedom, only to have lost our own.
While the Marines focused on the FEIS we have been fast at work telling our story in Washington DC. This effort continues, but today far more Legislators understand the situation. There are no guarantees, but common sense is getting the message across. The Bartlett Amendment is breaking down the barrier we have been up against.I didn't have any further question based on their replies. (Copy and Paste, Copy and Past):flipoff2: Basically from what I've read it's up to Congress to pass the proposal based on the information they have provided to them and none of the suggestion we made were viable. Oh and I like how they have thought of everything.... except for cleaning up the mess that they have created in their own backyard. So now it's up to the boneheads in congress to decide. Makes me wonder if all our letters should be sent to congress instead? 27,000 doesn't seem like alot of opposition when compaired to the population of the United States of America 311,591,917.
My fingers are crossed for the best outcome for all of us.
If we did loose the Hammers it would obviously suck balls.
But if it saved one life it would be worth it. I have seen way too many young soldiers blown the fuck up and shot to fucking pieces leaking gravy in the desert. Trust me it’s not a pretty sight.
Are you all that fucking selfish that you would sacrifice the training and lives of our troops to satisfy your need to play around in the dessert? Are you really going to whine and sell your buggy because they took the Hammers to better train our war fighters?
Or better yet think of your young son’s or daughter’s fighting over seas would you not sacrifice everything you had if it added to their survivability..
These two comments say it all, and I respect both of them equally.There are many people in SoCal (and elsewhere) who have spent time in those God forsaken hell-holes you mentioned that appreciate Johnson Valley as a place they can use for recreation. For many, off-roading is a way better medicine than seeing the shrink to get their head straight after combat.
Senator Feinstein has been working on a bill that has language that gives congressional protection to 5 OHV areas in California. Johnson Valley is one of them. I think your idea has legs.You know... if we're successful.... maybe we should investigate ways to make JV an OHV National Park. No improvements needed or wnated.
The Marines would never dare to annex Yellowstone National Park.
Just like they won't try to annex the wilderness areas to the east.
With little time left in the legislative process, what is the status of the Amendment? How likely is it that the Senate will consider and vote?The Bartlett Amendment is breaking down the barrier we have been up against.
Please help me understand the "new way" to deal with land closures. What was new and what did we learn?I am thankful because this lesson has taught us how to engage land closures in a new way. even if we are not 100% successful, we have learned so much that will help us in the future. The forward momentum we have made is opening new doors every week. Small victories, support here and there, friends in positions of power all start to add up.
Money and politics. If we convince the politicians they will lose dollars (taxes and such) they tend to change their position. Overwhelming support and true grass routs scares the current congress, and not to get too political but the current congress doesn't know how deep the water is when it comes to the silent majority on anything.Please help me understand the "new way" to deal with land closures. What was new and what did we learn?