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So what the actual fuck is goin on over there? There were a few here that had boots on the ground, i saw a meme talking about Guillotines, there any truth to it?:smokin:

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/10/france-riots-macron-expected-to-promise-economic-change-but-is-it-too-late.html

France's Macron expected to promise change amid riots and 'economic catastrophe' — but is it too late?
French President Emmanuel Macron is due to address the country Monday evening.
There were more violent protests in Paris and other French cities again at the weekend.
The protests started as a demonstration against Macron's carbon tax policy but they have morphed into wider anti-government protests.
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Protestors stand in front of the police during a protest of Yellow vests (Gilets jaunes) against rising oil prices and living costs near the Arc of Triomphe on the Champs Elysees. Security forces in Paris fired tear gas and water cannon to disperse protesters. France's 'yellow vest' protests become economic disaster, costing about $1 billion to retailers
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French President Emmanuel Macron is due to address the country Monday evening amid ongoing violent protests that hit Paris and other French cities again at the weekend.

Macron's presidency is in crisis following weeks over high-profile and dramatic demonstrations by "yellow-vest" protesters that have caused havoc across France.

The protests started as a demonstration against Macron's carbon tax policy and planned fuel tax increases but they have morphed into wider anti-government protests and discontent at Macron's leadership, rising living costs, his economic reforms and what many protesters say is Macron's neglect of the working and middle-classes.

The president is expected to make an announcement on Monday evening (at 19:00 London time) regarding the government's response to the protests, with expectations that he could announce new economic measures aimed at addressing negative public sentiment towards his reforms. But beyond that there is no indication what the statement will contain or whether it will be enough to placate demonstrators.

A protester waves a French flag during clashes with police at a demonstration by the "yellow vests" movement in Paris, France, December 8, 2018.
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A protester waves a French flag during clashes with police at a demonstration by the "yellow vests" movement in Paris, France, December 8, 2018.
One coordinator of the "yellow vest" protests, Thierry Paul Valette, told reporters on Saturday that Macron's announcement would be too little, too late.

"(Macron) must provide answers. They are late, unfortunately, they are late and the reality is that when he presents these measures some yellow vests will go home as they will be satisfied, but right now there are a lot of people who simply want the president to resign. It's too late, the game is set and those people will stay on the streets."

The government had already said that it would delay planned fuel tax increases for six months but then later went further by dropping them from the 2019 budget altogether. Still, that has failed to halt protests. In the fourth weekend of demonstrations on Saturday, around 125,000 were estimated to have protested around France.

In Paris, 10,000 demonstrators were believed to have taken to the streets with some throwing stones, torching cars and vandalizing shops and restaurants. Over 1,000 people were taken into custody and 264 were injured (including 39 police officers), the Interior Ministry said in a tweet on Saturday.


Analysts predict that Macron will have to change political tack in order to address voter concerns.

"The question is how much, in the way of concessions, is Macron going to have to give to calm the protests down," Constantine Fraser, European political analyst at TS Lombard, told CNBC Monday.

"I wouldn't be surprised if over the next few years we see a lot more of a consumer-faced Macron, a Macron who focuses much more on standards of living and on disposable income issues," he told CNBC's Street Signs.

Economic catastrophe

The government has warned of slower economic growth as a result of the protests and Bruno Le Maire, the country's finance minister, said the protests were an "economic catastrophe" for the euro zone's second largest economy.

"It's a catastrophe for business, it's a catastrophe for our economy," he said Sunday as he visited shops that had been damaged in Paris. He said the state would show the "greatest firmness" towards vandals and looters.

Macron needs to come up with some clear adjustments: Analyst Macron needs to come up with some clear adjustments: Analyst
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On Monday, Le Maire tweeted that the current protests would cost France 0.1 percentage point of quarterly economic growth. France grew 0.4 percent in the third quarter from the previous quarter.


France's neighbors are also watching closely to see what happens next as Macron had been seen as a political figurehead for Europe alongside Germany's Chancellor Angela Merkel.

While Brussels has witnessed copycat protests, Italy's leadership has sought to make political capital from the protests with Italy's Deputy Prime Minister Matteo Salvini saying Macron was to blame for the protests.

Turkey has said France was hypocritical for criticizing Turkey for human rights abuses when French police had used water cannon and tear gas on protestors in Paris.


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Macron put in a huge carbon tax on fuel to slow down climate change and the voters are protesting.
Interesting side note the yellow vests are required to be in every motorists vehicle in case of break downs.
 

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Macron put in a huge carbon tax on fuel to slow down climate change and the voters are protesting.
Interesting side note the yellow vests are required to be in every motorists vehicle in case of break downs.
So when this is all over, who surrenders to whom?

Macron surrenders to Penn? The protesters surrender to the UN? The neckerchief surrenders to the beret? The black and white striped shirt surrenders to the baguette?



but seriously, i wonder what the Brexit deal will influence with France and whats happening now?
 

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So when this is all over, who surrenders to whom?

Macron surrenders to Penn? The protesters surrender to the UN? The neckerchief surrenders to the beret? The black and white striped shirt surrenders to the baguette?



but seriously, i wonder what the Brexit deal will influence with France and whats happening now?
they all surrender to Al Gore
 

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So when this is all over, who surrenders to whom?

Macron surrenders to Penn? The protesters surrender to the UN? The neckerchief surrenders to the beret? The black and white striped shirt surrenders to the baguette?



but seriously, i wonder what the Brexit deal will influence with France and whats happening now?
There is alot that could come from this. Macron was whining about Trump tweeting some smack that more or less said i told you so. After the fact that the rest of the Civilized world throws their 2 cents towards U.S all the time. Trump is being proven right once again it seems.
 

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So when this is all over, who surrenders to whom?

Macron surrenders to Penn? The protesters surrender to the UN? The neckerchief surrenders to the beret? The black and white striped shirt surrenders to the baguette?



but seriously, i wonder what the Brexit deal will influence with France and whats happening now?
Apparently the Prime minister is still fighting Brexit.

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UK's May pulls vote on her divorce deal, thrusting Brexit into the unknown
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Macron put in a huge carbon tax on fuel to slow down climate change and the voters are protesting.
Interesting side note the yellow vests are required to be in every motorists vehicle in case of break downs.
except that's not what they're protesting and rioting about now.

now it's about cuts to housing allowances, minimum wage hikes and a bunch of other socialist goals.

they want the wealth tax put back into effect to pay for all of those things.

it's not some noble rebellion against taxation, it's a socialist movement to eat the rich.
 

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except that's not what they're protesting and rioting about now.

now it's about cuts to housing allowances, minimum wage hikes and a bunch of other socialist goals.

they want the wealth tax put back into effect to pay for all of those things.

it's not some noble rebellion against taxation, it's a socialist movement to eat the rich.
Ahh they shall eat their own!
 

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Doesn't really look like protesting, looks more like rioting and terrorizing the neighborhoods. Does France not have a National Guard they can call in to quell this situation? I watched one video where they threw a flash bomb of some sort into a police car while the big black cop was still inside the car, this was after they smashed the windows with battering rams. If this is considered protest by the constituents then France is fawked :eek:
Water cannons and fully automatic rubber bullet shootin' weapons are needed ASAP!
 

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Doesn't really look like protesting, looks more like rioting and terrorizing the neighborhoods. Does France not have a National Guard they can call in to quell this situation? I watched one video where they threw a flash bomb of some sort into a police car while the big black cop was still inside the car, this was after they smashed the windows with battering rams. If this is considered protest by the constituents then France is fawked :eek:
Water cannons and fully automatic rubber bullet shootin' weapons are needed ASAP!
Why? I'm pulling for the protestors! :flipoff2: Macron!
 

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I watched a brief clip about this earlier. Seems like people outside of the urban areas are upset with economic policy that caused business to fail or move to other countries. Raise the tax on fuel and put more burden on the rural population. One person said they've tried the left and right, both were trash and they need a new option, sounds familiar. They have a huge fuel depot blockaded, nobody in or out.
 

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Why? I'm pulling for the protestors! :flipoff2: Macron!
right there with you!

I hope they do chop some heads off, I don't really give a damn what their goals are :flipoff2:

against taxation of themselves for 'carbon' but pissed that the money isn't going to more socialization? Not concerned at all about taxation? Just hate the boss man? Okay fine, get your shit on :smokin:
 

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I would support trump sending over some c130’s and air dropping a few loads of m16’s for the crowd.
The FP-45 helped the last time they resisted democratic socialism . . .

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Maybe we could write it off as "entertainment expense"? :laughing:
 
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