[TJC]

Sorry I was trying to use Cryslr rationalized thinking on how to get people to post? What an idiot.

You guys rock! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Was doing some mild Minnesota trail driving(dry creek bed), when I decided to get stupid. Wanted to see how the new Weber and intake would perform, <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0"> so I stepped it down. Hit a few little bumps, did a powerslide...midway through there is a fawkin loud bang noise and I come to a dead stop from about 20mph. <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"> Looked underneath and my crossmember now has a 4inch dent slightly offset to the passenger side, and it is "speed-sloped" back towards the rear axle about 30 degrees.:[ Damn those camo boulders.


I want to see some ideas on how others have built some low clearence x-members. <IMG SRC="smilies/beer.gif" border="0">


I know its a pussy mobile...86 IFS 31"but its getting there. I got(a fuel cell, FLATBED, locking hubs, some motor mods, and 99,984 miles)

Oh and I'm not a newbie, I just don't post alot..so don't give me any of your shit. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Thanks Again, for all the awesome advice and sweet deals you guys have. <IMG SRC="smilies/beer.gif" border="0">

TJ Christensen

 

[Bones]

Do one similar to the budbuilt design. Simple and cheap. I plan to do something like that as well.

 

[SeaBass44]

Or buy one from Bud, fawkin newbie <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

 

[Bones]

Originally posted by SeaBass44:
<STRONG>Or buy one from Bud, fawkin newbie <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

I think his are pricey for what they are. Especially the dual case one. $260 for some 3/8" steel?

 

[ryanwhit]

Sorry I was trying to use Cryslr rationalized thinking on how to get people to post? What an idiot.

LMAO <IMG SRC="smilies/laughing.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/laughing.gif" border="0">

thats pretty funny

Well first of all, might be a good idea to slow the hell down.

If not, you might consider making a full undercarage skide plate out of a bucket from, say a 940 series CAT loader <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
Then you could kit whatever you want as fast as you want!!

Or, you could go w/ something like a bud-built. Not quite as much fun as the bucket idea, but probably about as strong.

Damn newbies <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

 

[bertha]

Originally posted by ryanwhit:
<STRONG>
If not, you might consider making a full undercarage skide plate out of a bucket from, say a 940 series CAT loader <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
Then you could kit whatever you want as fast as you want!!

newbies <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmmmm <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> I know where there is one that has been down for almost a year. Too bad I am an <IMG SRC="smilies/innocent.gif" border="0"> and would not even think about scrounging it for my own personal use.

 

[OOP'S]

Question to those running the "BudBuilt" X-member. I really like the simple design and how low profile it is. Being that is made from a flat piece of stock do you get any torque flex out of it? <IMG SRC="smilies/usa.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/usa.gif" border="0">

[ 10-12-2001: Message edited by: OOPS ]

 

[KLF]

Originally posted by Bones:
<STRONG>

I think his are pricey for what they are. Especially the dual case one. $260 for some 3/8" steel?</STRONG>

Hmmmm.... using that rational... AutoCAD costs $4000, and it's on this flimsy CD that's worth about a nickel. Maybe I'll write my own CAD program... <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">

 

[SKI]

I realy like the one AOR made "HERE".

scroll down and get some ideas. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

 

[Booger Weldz]

i run the budbuilt dual, its not too pricey when you figure it comes with a killer skidplate and nothing out there, except by an inch(FRORF), can give you that kind of clearance, especially when you do a drivetrain lift in conjunction with. not many people have the ability to bend up that 3/8" stock either. good stuff and worth the $$.... <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

 

[DRM]

I make a plate similar to the FROR one, but just the center section and you can design the rest any way you like:

http://www.tennessee4x4.com/toyota/custom_fabricated_parts.htm

 

[crash]

I prefer one that holds it and protects the t-case. am going to dump mine here soon for yet another design, goingto hack the motormounts of the frame and raise then tilt the t-case, so i can have a flat surface from frame rail to rail, still keep the rig low amd a good amout of belly clearance.

here is what i currently am running

 

[budr]

I'll jump in here since my ears were ringing... <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

First, the dual case versions are only $235 and the single ones are $160. Both include 3/16" skidplates, the grade 12.9 flathead metric hardware and Allen wrench. They are simple, and I promise there is absolutley no magic used to make them! <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

Second, OOPS, not sure I understand your question about torque flex. Do you mean bending the crossmember from engine torque? Not sure how you could get torque flex on something that is attached to the tranny with rubber? 2 stock mounts can take a fair amount of torque, and I've not seen or heard of anyone having any bending of them. Anybody have this issue?

Also, I designed them this way so there was a smooth bottom, with ramps on and off that doesn't catch on rocks. It is also not pan shaped so you can wash it out when in the mud.

Hope this helps? <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

 

[Bones]

Originally posted by KLF:
<STRONG>Hmmmm.... using that rational... AutoCAD costs $4000, and it's on this flimsy CD that's worth about a nickel. Maybe I'll write my own CAD program... <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

CAD has a bit more in R&D and Beta testing in it than a piece of steel jackass!! <IMG SRC="smilies/flipoff.gif" border="0">

Thanks budr for the price fix, sorry about that.

 

[DRM]

Originally posted by budr:
<STRONG>the single ones are $160. Both include 3/16" skidplates, the grade 12.9 flathead metric hardware and Allen wrench. They are simple, and I promise there is absolutley no magic used to make them!</STRONG>

I have to admit for the price, and what you get, this is one of the best deals for a low-pro complete-N-ready-to-install crossmember that is on the market today... <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

 

[budr]

Bones, no problem on the price fix. Just want to make sure you have good info! But to show you that i'm a good sport, I'll sell you one for $260. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

And just so you know, I have thousands of engineers working on these things round the clock... NOT!

DRM, thanks for the compliment, it is getting scary but I agree with you! <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">

 

[KLF]

Originally posted by Bones:
<STRONG>CAD has a bit more in R&D and Beta testing in it than a piece of steel jackass!! <IMG SRC="smilies/flipoff.gif" border="0"> </STRONG>

Now, now... let's not go this way, OK? I didn't mean to offend you... but my point is that Bud didn't just walk out to the garage and bend up a piece of steel, call it done. He had several prototypes to make, get input from people that installed them and used them on the trail, design and build a jig, etc, etc, etc... this is his R&D and yes it was beta tested, by Bud himself.

I GAR-UN-TEE that you'll spend more than $235 on steel and your time (assuming it has value, which I say it does) making one like this. This is also assuming you have a way to bend 3/8" plate available. I do have access to a big press and can easily get the steel, and I still bought one:

OOPs, I notice no more torque flex action than before. Mine is 1" of lift.

 

[OOP'S]

Originally posted by budr:
<STRONG>
Second, OOPS, not sure I understand your question about torque flex. Do you mean bending the crossmember from engine torque? Not sure how you could get torque flex on something that is attached to the tranny with rubber? 2 stock mounts can take a fair amount of torque, and I've not seen or heard of anyone having any bending of them. Anybody have this issue?
</STRONG>

Thanks you answered my question, I had a brain fart ad forgot about the rubber tranny mount!!! <IMG SRC="smilies/usa.gif" border="0">

 

[Bones]

Originally posted by KLF:
<STRONG>Now, now... let's not go this way, OK? I didn't mean to offend you... but my point is that Bud didn't just walk out to the garage and bend up a piece of steel, call it done. He had several prototypes to make, get input from people that installed them and used them on the trail, design and build a jig, etc, etc, etc... this is his R&D and yes it was beta tested, by Bud himself.

I GAR-UN-TEE that you'll spend more than $235 on steel and your time (assuming it has value, which I say it does) making one like this. This is also assuming you have a way to bend 3/8" plate available. I do have access to a big press and can easily get the steel, and I still bought one</STRONG>

NP at all, I may or may not make one myself, but my point was that it's not rocket science, and if you have access to a press and some steel, a similar one could be done that's all.

 

[Brandon]

bout $10 in steel - and last monday I tried it in the rocks, extra clearance really was nice <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

(the old one is just for comparison, it is not there now)