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2 officer responded and were on the 31st floor. The guard had supposedly reported being shot on the 32nd floor.

eleven minutes after the last gunfire, "Eight more cops arrive in the hotel and start clearing rooms". You do not "clear rooms" unless you know where the danger is and have it contained. There were not going door-to-door clearing rooms looking for the shooter, they knew where he was and had 2 officers standing the stairwell next to his room for 9 minutes before they started clearing rooms
With the amount of calls coming in and varying info, I'm not sure they knew how many shooters they were dealing with. Like someone said above, I don't think local PD is going to charge into a room/hallway and try to take the guy/s down. They would contain the problem and clear the surrounding area until SWAT came to handle it. Just my opinion...
 

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What happened?

Giving out false information to begin with and never really coming out with a accurate accounting of the event?

and, please, don't oversimplify what I stated as if I stated it that way

I didn't suggest "storming into" a fight.

2 officer responded and were on the 31st floor. The guard had supposedly reported being shot on the 32nd floor.

eleven minutes after the last gunfire, "Eight more cops arrive in the hotel and start clearing rooms". You do not "clear rooms" unless you know where the danger is and have it contained. There were not going door-to-door clearing rooms looking for the shooter, they knew where he was and had 2 officers standing the stairwell next to his room for 9 minutes before they started clearing rooms

it was also reported that the security guard saved some maintenance worker (somehow) and he also helped officers clear rooms


NOTHING I would suggest disparages the LVPD. That's not the point and I, personally, have no desire or need to find some sort of blame. My point is to have understanding of the events. Every event cascades with actions created from other actions.
I'm speaking rhetorically on both counts, sorry if it came across confrontational.

What happened at Sandy Hook is the same thing that's happening with this situation, people are trying to make connections that don't exist. I met the guy with the shotgun, he was one of the presenters at a conference I worked. He was clearing brush in his backyard, and was on-call (their LEO system is kinda weird with troopers and sheriff and different departments working across county or city lines, as I recall), and heard his radio blowing up so he hopped in his vehicle and hauled ass to the school, and was one of the first cops on site dressed in his civilian clothes with a long barreled shotgun, yeah he didn't look like he was part of the solution initially. God forbid if any of us ever have to be in such mayhem.

I don't know how the first cops ended up on the wrong floor initially, but again mayhem.
 

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That's the thing. Hindsight being 20/20, they were getting 100s of calls saying there were shooters all over the place. Hard to call that fake news when no one knows wtf is going on in the first few minutes. Its not like everyone was on the same page, some people knew more than others, and still more knew nothing but "RUN".


Of course, that doesn't dismiss all the discrepancies that are popping up regarding details. But again, mayhem isn't orderly and completely logical, especially when a psychopath is involved.
 

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That's the thing. Hindsight being 20/20, they were getting 100s of calls saying there were shooters all over the place. Hard to call that fake news when no one knows wtf is going on in the first few minutes. Its not like everyone was on the same page, some people knew more than others, and still more knew nothing but "RUN".


Of course, that doesn't dismiss all the discrepancies that are popping up regarding details. But again, mayhem isn't orderly and completely logical, especially when a psychopath is involved.
And one rocket surgeon stood there with his beer and flying the bird! :laughing::eek: Edit; Maybe that's what made shooter off himself, the fucking snowflake shooter got triggered.



 

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And one rocket surgeon stood there with his beer and flying the bird! :laughing::eek: Edit; Maybe that's what made shooter off himself, the fucking snowflake shooter got triggered.



There's not giving a fuck and then there's this guy. Next level elite not giving a fuck.
 

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And one rocket surgeon stood there with his beer and flying the bird! :laughing::eek: Edit; Maybe that's what made shooter off himself, the fucking snowflake shooter got triggered.



Shooter probably realized he was no match for this guy and shat himself

then he shot himself :flipoff2:
 

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There's not giving a fuck and then there's this guy. Next level elite not giving a fuck.
Fuck Robert E. Lee and Jefferson Davis statues, we need some of this guy.
 

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Guy was facing opposite direction and several minutes after shoosting stopped. Still awesome though.
 

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Wonder what they are going to change their story to next week ?

And where is the video from the casino and hotel ????

You know they have every square inch of the place covered with cameras

The mafia isn't going to let any one walk out of that place with a penny

Why haven't we seen the hotel video yet ?

Is it because the cops haven't finished making up their stories yet ?

If the guard got shot six minutes BEFORE the nut job started firing and radioed in his exact location and the cops waited thirty minutes to respond
That's just total incompetence and that department should be disbanded
We'd be better off without them
 

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I still think there's a decent chance that there's some ISIS involvement and that they're waiting on the U.S. authorities to hopefully come out with a definitive statement that there was no ISIS involvement before posting proof in order to make the authorities look like incompetent dumbasses.
 

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I still think there's a decent chance that there's some ISIS involvement and that they're waiting on the U.S. authorities to hopefully come out with a definitive statement that there was no ISIS involvement before posting proof in order to make the authorities look like incompetent dumbasses.
ISIS used an image of the wrong guy in their propaganda. Don't you think if Paddock was involved with ISIS, they'd at least have a clue what he looks like? :shaking:
 

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Well, shit fuck. I was wrong in what I said. I apologize for my misinformation and wrongness I posted here. And no, I'm not being facetious, honestly. Shit, the moar I try to say I'm seriously sorry, the moar it looks like I'm being a smart ass and being sarcastic, I'm not.
 
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