[Fred Wilson]

Ok, for a '98 TJ (4.0L, 5 speed), I'm assuming the the automatic that comes with the TJ, the TF999 is pretty much a "direct bolt in" replacement for the 5 speed (AX15), but how about the 4 speed auto from a late model XJ, the AW4 ?? I can't seem to find much info about them. The engine's the same (the 4.0L) and the xfer case is the same (NP231), and the xfer case input shafts *seem* to be the same (short 23 spline shaft), but what about the overall length of the AW4 compared to the TF999??

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Fred

 

[JasonTJ]

Fred,

I'm pretty sure the input shafts on the 231 are different for autos N manuals. I ran into this when I sold my 231. I don't remember which one is longer though

 

[DE Jeeper]

The t-cases mated to an AW-4 with 23 spline have the same input shaft as an AX-15 or NV3550 mated t-case. The 999 requires a different input shaft then an 5 spd. Becareful because some older AW-4's are 21 spline. The AW-4 is not a good swap because it is computer controled and it is 1" longer then an AX-15 or NV3550.

 

[emsoffroad]

You might want to think long and hard before you do that swap. I beleive that you will either have to change the wiring harness or the computer, or both. The new autos are eletrionicly(sp) controled. And I don't beleive that they just leave the plugs hanging for both trannies. In the end you may find it easier and cheaper to buy one that has your tranny in it.

 

[RepoMan]

advance adapters was working on that swap and scraped it as the electronics are more trouble than its worth they went to using a 700r4(4l60) instead that would be the best trans for your application.

 

[Mo]

Save the headache and money...

With something that new, if you want the auto, sell your Jeep and buy one with the equipment you want.

 

[orbitcat]

Mo -

Much easier said than done. If Jeep only put a decent auto in the wrangler. Hell, If they put in the 4.7L V8 and the matching auto(RL45 ?) from the 2000 Grand Cherokee, I'd trade mine in in a heartbeat.

 

[AtomicBeesting]

Originally posted by Mo:
<STRONG>Save the headache and money...

With something that new, if you want the auto, sell your Jeep and buy one with the equipment you want.</STRONG>

I agree 100%.

 

[Po' riggity]

On one hand, I completly agree with Mo, that with something that new, you could sell yours and buy something with an auto. On the other hand, I know what its like to be attached to a vehicle, hence the reason I am keeping my yj and sticking an auto in it. Id say go for the TF-999 just because it is about as direct bolt in as you can get .. although.. you will have some issues.. cooling issues.. since you have the radiator for a manual, an tranny cooler will be needed. along with a lot of other stuff.. email me for more info on the stuff Ive needed to get... Don't forget that the auto is shorter, and requires a longer rear driveshaft and a shorter front driveshaft... It gets spendy.. Ive spent about 900 on parts for my swap, and that didnt include the 300 for the tranny/t case <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
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[J33P_XJ_89]

Looking To Swap Auto To Manual

I currently have a rebuilt tranny and a rebuilt NP242 transfer case (allows for part time, full time, and 4wd low) on my 89 cherokee XJ that im looking to swap out to a manual...both tranny and transfer case work great...just prefer a manual...anyone who's looking to rid themselves of there manual setup for an auto..send me an email at [email protected] or send me a pm....


Brenden

 

[usmcdoc14]

dude you resurected an over 2 year old post to put up a FAWKING WANTED ADD?!!??!??

AND AS YOUR FIRST FAWKING POST !!??

delete this shat so it dont attract too much attention and put it in the wanted section where it belongs.
it apears you learned to search so learn to put stuff in the right forum.

welcome to PBB :flipoff2:

 

[J33P_XJ_89]

Wow...

oh no...did i just kill someone?!?!? oh shit...have a heart attack....you need to calm the fvck down bro...


im new..i obviously made a mistake not realizing this forum kept a 2 year history......and they were talking about converting...so i let them know i was looking to do an opposite swap...SO IT IS THE RIGHT D^MN FORUM...


i'll make sure i don't make the mistake again...wouldnt want you going into convulsions...i hope you dont freak out like this on the trail...

 

[usmcdoc14]

ok note for the idiot:
this :flipoff2: is a friendly fawk you
this :flipoff: would mean that you made me angry in some way

this :flipoff: is for you now.
there is no tech in your post, all you are doing is saying "hey i am gonna switch to a standard and i would like to trade my shat for it" remove the last part and i would have just been caught off guard that a thread that old was brought up (does happen from time to time)and would not have said shat other than welcome.
but you wanted to do a trade and pimp it in the middle of here
so no it is in the WRONG damn forum.

your new so maybe this is your notification to get some thick skin and suck it up. and not take statements here as an personal attack.

 

[J33P_XJ_89]

ummm...

it is the right forum..because....i was letting them know i was going to do the opposite and what i was planning...then i dropped a note to anyone interested in trading that was doing the manual to auto......i wouldnt be letting the people who posted this know that i was available for trade if i posted in another forum...(again..didnt realize it was 2 years old)...sorry i ruined your day by making that mistake...:flipoff2:

as for your friendly fvck you, my bad, im not up to date on this boards azzhole sarcasm...i'll get the hang of it quick...and as for your angry fvck you..:flipoff2:

 

[INFAMOUSBUTCHER]

now children play nice


but to my freind the newbie this is a tech forum, for tehc information like what electronic sensors i need to convert so my manual will work with my computer that originaly had an auto

not just to say hey im doing this :flipoff2:

 

[tj7]

hahahahaha! you guys are mental...oh by the way anything will work if you just have the time and patients to make it work.i am in the midst of swapping in a 4.7 with the 5 speed auto that was mated to it .get the manuals of both vehicles and start splicing....

ill get pics of it as soon as i can also the 1 tons are still not under there yet

but hopefully it will all be done by july....