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Just wanted to show that Regular shackels and spring over with alcan springs were good enough for Rich Hudson, he finished top ten in ARCA the last 2 years. Just like to keep this argument going and show that offroad I really don't think there is a differance.

One thing I've heard of happening is people bending springs without a reversal anyone do this?
 

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Shackle reversal= <IMG SRC="smilies/rainbow.gif" border="0"> just make big tires eat fender so whats the point? better ride? who gives a shit? <IMG SRC="smilies/rainbow.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/rainbow.gif" border="0">
 

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THE OTHER OPTION TO A REVERSE SHACKLE IS TO INSTALL A TOW STRAP AND HAVE IT ATTACHED TO YOUR JEEP.
 

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The main reason I did a shackle reversal is to gain better clearance. I have also snapped a main leaf when the shackle nailed a mud wall. The spring couldnt go back anymore and broke. I just swapped the mount front to back and gained gobs of clearance up front.
 

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Yes, I have bent both front springs on the Hammers before I put a SR on. The only thing I don't like about it is I still have 4" springs up front and the brake dive kinda sucks. When I do the SOA up front with flatter springs I think that will disappear, and I do like the fact that it's moved the axle forward a bit.
 

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Ya, I have been reading about this everywhere I could. I have a 95 YJ and have the RS sitting in the garage that I built myself. Havent put it on yet. Here is what I think the pros and cons are my .02

Pros:
Tires climb up rocks easier vs bumping into them,
Moves the front-end forward a hair (Brown hair),
depending on how you do your shackle side of the RS it will lift the front and give you the added clearance for the tires,
Rides nicer (how cares),
you dont slam your front shackles,
gives me a reason to whip out the torch and welder <IMG SRC="smilies/glasses.gif" border="0">

Cons,
Terrible nose dive while breaking,
potentially puts the front tires into the fenders,
makes <IMG SRC="smilies/rainbow.gif" border="0"> think its <IMG SRC="smilies/rainbow.gif" border="0"> ,

Thats is I am heading to the garage to get it done <IMG SRC="smilies/beer.gif" border="0"> , <IMG SRC="smilies/flipoff.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/rainbow.gif" border="0">

BlueYJ <IMG SRC="smilies/glasses.gif" border="0">
 

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OK, riddle me this...

I've been considering a SR for a while. Most SR proponents say that it gives you more clearance in the front.

Why?

You're moving the stationary end of the spring to the front on a big-a$$ed DROPPED bracket to keep the caster setting correct.

So how much clearance do you actually gain? It looks to me like the mounts hang down about as much as the shackles do.

Also, when you do hit the bracket on a rock, aren't you more likely to bend the frame horn than if you hit a shackle and bent a spring?

Am I missing something here? <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0"> (Wouldn't be surprised)
 

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Originally posted by CoryB:
<STRONG>OK, riddle me this...

I've been considering a SR for a while. Most SR proponents say that it gives you more clearance in the front.

Why?

You're moving the stationary end of the spring to the front on a big-a$$ed DROPPED bracket to keep the caster setting correct.

So how much clearance do you actually gain? It looks to me like the mounts hang down about as much as the shackles do.

Also, when you do hit the bracket on a rock, aren't you more likely to bend the frame horn than if you hit a shackle and bent a spring?

Am I missing something here? <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0"> (Wouldn't be surprised)</STRONG>

What you gain is in angle of attack. Once the tires up on something it rarely, if ever, hits the shackle thats trailing behind the tire. As for bending the frame horn, maybe if you have a totally stock frame otherwise.. I wouldnt know.
 

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Originally posted by Jeepmangled87:
<STRONG>Shackle reversal= <IMG SRC="smilies/rainbow.gif" border="0"> </STRONG>
Yea, that's why Ford and Chevy have been hanging theirs like that for years. <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">

Look, it's all in what turns your crank. This debate will be split right down the middle from now until the end of time. What does it matter?? Do what you wanna do to your own rig and everyone else can suck it. They both wheel, they both have pro's and con's and they both are used in factory rigs.

It all boils down to opinion.

Side Note: Anyone who thinks they have "Dana 35's front and rear" shouldn't have a valid opinion on the subject anyway. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">

[ 11-02-2001: Message edited by: Putzboy ]
 

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The only reason I didn't do an SR is because I didn't want to buy a long travle driveline. Now that I have spent some time behind the wheel I wish I had done an SR because you realy need to have the ARB in to help the tires over the larger rocks or it realy put the spring in a bind. my .02
 

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I have more clearance from my s.r. because I just swapped mounts around. The spring is mounted just under the bumper. I have no problems with the fender because I did a soa and moved the diff ahead 4".
 

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Hey putz boy get real??? <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> cant you take a fawking joke I got portal 35cs' any way jackass <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by Putzboy:
<STRONG>Do what you wanna do to your own rig and everyone else can suck it.</STRONG>
<IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

<STRONG>Side Note: Anyone who thinks they have "Dana 35's front and rear" shouldn't have a valid opinion on the subject anyway.</STRONG>
<IMG SRC="smilies/laughing.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/laughing.gif" border="0"> LMFAO, you tell em' Putz! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

I know rear shackle reversals are all the rage, I can't wait to correct that flaw and put the rear shackle in the front <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> NOT <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> Putz said it best, it's personal preference. Do what ya like <IMG SRC="smilies/beer.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by Jeepmangled87:
<STRONG>Hey putz boy get real??? <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> cant you take a fawking joke ...</STRONG>
Yup, as I'm sure you can. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Originally posted by Jeepmangled87:
<STRONG>I got portal 35cs' any way jackass <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
Uhm, why?? <IMG SRC="smilies/confused.gif" border="0">
 

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The reason I'm posting this is to see if anyone has had a problem with non reversal, and I don't care about you banging into rocks with the front shackles, I like to drive around or over them not into them <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

I'm thinking about putting the shackles on the front of my yota cause I need a new front crossmember anyway and this would give me better tire clearance and save me money on the driveshaft. I guess I'm just gonna have to try it
 
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