[Violent91]

COME ON DOWWWWWN!

Alright. Lets play 'name that jeep'. I'm a toyota owner and im looking to put 2 bigger solid axles under my truck and im looking to figure out which axles. Anyway...heres a jeep that i found sitting in a field for a fair price. Anyhow...i know a bit about jeeps, but not much about these 'jeeps'. I figured id take a few pix tonight and let the experts tell me what this animal is. I'd like to know everything about it....year...model...axles(mostly)...engine...tranny...t-case...gearing...how much these parts and such are worth. I know that there are probably alot of diff combos but throw something at me...i know it has a v8...if that helps. Also, if anyone is interested in something on it...let me know. I'm in south texas.

Mario Gonzales
http://www.toyota4wd.net

 

[TexasBlake]

sent you an email.

but it is an early wagoneer, 360 or 401, Dana 44 axles f/r

 

[BrettM]

its a wagoneer, front and rear d44s. The rear is offset, so you probably don't want it. These can also be had with a driver's side d44 front and a centered AMC 20 rear. It is the stronger 20, not the weak ones under CJs.

 

[Gwamp]

Wagoneer. Looks to be late 70's/early 80's from the grill if it is the original one. You will need to get the VIN off of it to identify it exactly. Follow the link in my sig and in the tech library there you cen decode the VIN and find out what came with that rig from the factory.

 

[Violent91]

alright

Its a 360....i went and checked on it. What kind of tranny/t-case would be behind this? (its an auto) Is there anything bad about the offset 44? Is it more vauable/rare? Also, what range of gears may these D44s have? any traction devices?

 

[hy_desert_4wheeler]

Re: alright

Its a 360....i went and checked on it. What kind of tranny/t-case would be behind this? (its an auto) Is there anything bad about the offset 44? Is it more vauable/rare? Also, what range of gears may these D44s have? any traction devices?

That is a 74 to 79 with the fulltime Quadratrac transfercase.. The tranny is probably a turbo 400 with the AMC bellhousing pattern..The Diff should accept the all the traction devices that any other 44 uses..

 

[GoatFish]

Not worth much, the 44’s are probably the best thing in it. The rear off set makes it hard to use in other jeeps.

 

[Gwamp]

Did it have lock out hubs or not? (kinda hard to tell from the pictures) if not, it is probably a 74-79 W/ Quadratrac T-case and a T-400 tranny. If it has lock outs, it could be a converted Q-trac with the milemarker part time kit (weak) or it is a later vintage of waggie with a NP-229, 228, 219 or a 208. Could be one of 2 Q-trac cases, the 1339 or the 1305. the 1339 has the low range and is the more desirable of the two Q-trac cases. It could also have a D-20 in it. Now this all flies out the window if someone has swapped anything into it. The only way you are going to know for sure is to crawl under it and get the #'s off of the axles and the #'s off of the tags (if they are there)on the T-case.

 

[TexasBlake]

Not worth much, the 44’s are probably the best thing in it. The rear off set makes it hard to use in other jeeps.

But they are great for flatties with a Dana 18 when you want to replace the narrow, 10 spline, Dana 44 that is currently in it. Samurais use them too.

If it is Quadratrac it will DEFINATELY have a TH400.

If you don't want the axles, gimme a ring.

 

[shaggyzukin]

Most 74-77 waggys have flat top knuckles and that one don't look like it, even though its hard to tell. In 1980 the front diff went to the driver side.
That must be a 78 or 79.
And welcome newbie :flipoff2:
Shaggy

 

[JohnnyJ]

79 started the square headlights on full-sizes. and since it has a pass offset front diff it is definitely a 79. 1980 and later would have square headlights and driver's drop front pumpkin.

It has a 360, either 2 or 4 barrel carb. 401 stopped in 78.

The rear axle looks pretty offset, so I'd guess it's an auto, meaning TH400 and BW1339. A lever on the floor means it has low range. (It was an option.)

If the rear axle weren't as offset it would mean you had a manual, but they still had to offset it a bit to clear the gas tank. A manual would have either been a T-15 or T-18, with a Dana 20 t-case.

 

[4wheelnDutchman]

thanx blake for telling me about this... how much wider would the axle be?

i'm interested... when can i come look?

 

[Violent91]

Alright. Thanks Alot for everyones help, i appreciate it. I'm probably gonna get it for the front axle. How wide is the front d44 hub to hub? How much are aftermarket lockouts?(superwinch) How many leafs should i run for decent flex on a light toyota? Anyone have any suggestions on how i should apply this axle?

If anyone wants a piece of this truck, other than the front d/s and axle/steering, give me a ring, i might be able to help you out. It has a 360/T-400/quadratrac and its a 79. Its complete, but not in the best of shape. Can get Pix...near laredo.
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[TexasBlake]

Alright. Thanks Alot for everyones help, i appreciate it. I'm probably gonna get it for the front axle. How wide is the front d44 hub to hub? How much are aftermarket lockouts?(superwinch) How many leafs should i run for decent flex on a light toyota? Anyone have any suggestions on how i should apply this axle?

If anyone wants a piece of this truck, other than the front d/s and axle/steering, give me a ring, i might be able to help you out. It has a 360/T-400/quadratrac and its a 79. Its complete, but not in the best of shape. Can get Pix...near laredo.
[email protected]

Is it near Larado or Uvalde (your location)? Me and 4wheelinDutchman are in Corpus, which is pretty close. Does the 360 or TH400 work?

The width should be around 63" from wheel face to wheel face. As far as springs, I dunno, ask them crazy toyota guys. I'm sure it depends on what size tire, wheelbase, and spring eye width you have now, or if you want to change.

 

[Pottsy]

The rear off set makes it hard to use in other jeeps.

Not My 59 cj5.... and for that any other early CJ...


EEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeerrrrrrr.......:beer:

 

[Violent91]

Actually, In the middle. haha....i dont want to give you the runaround. Im from Carrizo Springs. Thats smack dab in the middle of nowhere. I just say laredo so people know where the heck i am in a general area. im 80 miles north of Laredo....40 miles south of Uvalde. Actually, my buddy wants the tires....(75%) but other than that, its yours if you want it. I took another look at it just now and the body is in pretty good condition considering its age and such. Not ALOT of rust....but ya know what i mean. Its straighter than my toy body. Tell me what you might need....or you can pick it up or i can deliver 1/2 way for cost of gas. (youd need a flatbed)
I'll PM ya with more details....its time for this thread to limp on back to the 10th page.