Pirate 4x4 banner

1 - 10 of 10 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
111 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
AA is coming out with a new crawler box that will sit between the 465 and stock t-case with a 3.44 gear, it is also the adapter to the 465 and t-case. Supposed to be out in Dec, we'll see. 6.55 x 3.44 x 2.3 x 4.1 = 212.47, HOLY SHIT!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,404 Posts
Do you know what stock transfer case they designed it for? Also, I'm curious about the length of the crawler box...good news, with the Klune-V option imminent, it seems that LC's have been getting some attention from the aftermarket lately!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
111 Posts
Discussion Starter #3
The guy said it would be shorter than the 203 way. Basically it is supposed to replace the adapter between the 465 and where NP203 would go. The site says it is 5"'s long. THey said it was designed to bolt to the back of the 465 and adapt to the Fj40 t-cases. Check out http://www.advanceadapters.com/acrobat/tlccrawlers.pdf . I guess I am going to wait and see what they come up with.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
111 Posts
Discussion Starter #5
The guy I talked to said it was going to be designed to use a plate adapter of some sort to mate to the stock transmission or the 465, probably a 1" I would guess. Still saves alot of drive shaft and with 3.44 gears, man!
 

·
Moderating Midget
Joined
·
27,537 Posts
OK,
Devils Advocate here.....you still have the Cruiser Transfer case in the mix here. You upgrade to a bulletproof Transmission and crawler box (billit I'm sure) and you strap on a Cruiser Transfer case.

I don't know. If I were to do a "crawler box" it would be a Klune with a Cruiser transmission and a 205 in the rear.

The Cuiser transmission is WAY tougher than the Cruiser transfer case IMHO.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,701 Posts
I agree with Nolen - the stock 3 sp/4sp Cruiser tcase wont handle the added torque too well IMHO. Plus, there is the cost issue: if this unit costs $1500 - which is what AA charges for the Ranger Overdrive/Underdrive unit - then the Atlas is the way to go. It costs more, but is much stronger and shorter than any of the doubler concepts, and possibly as short as this new crawler box.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
111 Posts
Discussion Starter #8
I agree with the 2 of you as well, just excited at the possibilities, getting more options for the Kruzer's that's all.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
10,444 Posts
It should be able to adapt to a dana 18 easily (hopefully).... The reason for not going to a Atlas is the fact that you loose the normal low range. Which I like most of the time (yeah yeah I know shift up <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> ). I really dig the ability to choose a bunch of different gears. It all depends on the length issue. Nolen figured out that the atlas behind the cruiser six is difficult. If the crawler box is only 5" long it will be almost perfect for most peoples rigs. And a lot shorter than the Klune.......

I am patiently waiting to see what turns up soon. Of course if I could just move the rear axle backwards a bunch more I would be in a better situation

<IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,205 Posts
Originally posted by wngrog:
<STRONG>OK,
Devils Advocate here.....you still have the Cruiser Transfer case in the mix here. You upgrade to a bulletproof Transmission and crawler box (billit I'm sure) and you strap on a Cruiser Transfer case.

I don't know. If I were to do a "crawler box" it would be a Klune with a Cruiser transmission and a 205 in the rear.

The Cuiser transmission is WAY tougher than the Cruiser transfer case IMHO.</STRONG>
I have an SM465+NP203 in front of my 4spd-era tcase. Where the tcase used to get 3.5:1 input, it now gets 13.0:1 input.

Bruce Miller had the same exact drivetrain, and his tcase broke in half at Moab:



I've got Don Anway's plate across the top and John Pardi's plate across the back. The engine is a 2F. I've been through the Rubicon, to Moab, Fordyce, done plenty of off-road trips. After a season of wheeling with the doubler I rebuilt the tcase (it was never rebuilt before) and the case was fine. It's been two years now and no problems. At least the addition of a 2.0:1 gear-reduction NP203 box seems to be OK in front of a cruiser tcase, with protection. I am not sure that even a reinforced cruiser tcase could withstand 23.0:1 GRB.

If I had it to do over again, I'd do the NP203 GRB again, but go with the "split" tcase found in FJ60s, instead of the 4spd-era tcase.

The 205 isn't an option with a stock LC rear axle. I daydream about going to a 203/205 drivetrain and Dana axles, but I'm not going to be putting that kind of money and time into my cruiser for quite a while. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

morgan

[ 09-26-2001: Message edited by: morgan ]
 
1 - 10 of 10 Posts
Top