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I have a question regarding some verbage on the new Rubicon trail map pamphlet. I left the map at work, but in essence it states that, while on the trail you must have in your possession a shovel and oil spill kit or equivalent. It also stated that waste (read as poop) and other garbage must be carried off the trail.

Has a policy been adopted or an old policy in existence that requires at least part of the above? Are any or all of the above a ticketable offense if not in compliance?

I have no issues with any of the requirements but this is the first time I have seen it written.
 

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I have the text online... gimme a minute.

These are at this time only STRONG recommendations, but the County has considered making them actual requirements.

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Regulations
  • All vehicles must stay on the Trail. Travel off the trail, including cross country travel, is not permitted and is subject to citation.
  • “Pack it in, pack it out” * all human and solid waste shall be collected by Trail users and transported to an appropriate disposal receptacle outside of the Trail areas.
  • The Rubicon Trail is a County Road surrounded by public and private lands. As such, state law applies for such offenses as driving while under the influence of drugs and/or alcohol.
  • Vehicles shall not generate excessive noise.
  • No motor vehicle shall exceed 15 m.p.h. within 50 feet of any campground, campsite, or concentration of people or animals.
  • Motor vehicles cannot be operated in a manner that endangers the safety of other persons or their property.
  • Drivers with suspended driver’s licenses shall be prohibited from operating a motor vehicle on the Trail.
Registration and Vehicle Code
  • The California Vehicle Code (CVC) shall be enforced.
  • All vehicles operated off*highway on the Rubicon Trail are required to be street*licensed (“Street Legal” [CV CS4000]) or registered as an off*highway vehicle (“Green Sticker” [CV CS3810*3812]).
  • All vehicles using the Rubicon Trail shall operate in compliance with pollution control standards defined by CVC S38390*38397.
  • Any vehicle operated between sunset and sunrise must display at least one headlight that enables an operator to see clearly 200 feet ahead and one red taillight visible for 200 feet.
Required Equipment
  • Trash bags or similar for packing out trash.
  • Oil spill kit which includes oil spill pads (PIG Absorbent Ground Tarp or similar) and hydrocarbon clean up material (Zorbit Technologies Peat Sorb or similar) and disposal means for packing out contaminated material.
  • Fire extinguisher and shovel.
 

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We now have to pack out our crap? Well looks like im buying a portable
sh it ter.
 

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Where have ya been, man? Sanitation on the Rubicon has been a big challenge for years, and a personal sanitation system has been recommended for some time... there are just too many people using the trail for everyone to dig a hole and bury the wast, even if people could be easily motivated.

Links to follow... plenty of good solutions exist, but to get your started, www.RoundEyes.com has several trail-proven systems with varying price points.

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Links to follow... plenty of good solutions exist, but to get your started, www.RoundEyes.com has several trail-proven systems with varying price points.
Here's details on the sanitation-induced Spider Lake closure: http://www.delalbright.com/Rubicon/spider.htm

Here's a multi-page discussion of sanitation reasons and options...
http://www.delalbright.com/Rubicon/sanitation.htm

I hope this helps. It doesn't have to be expensive or complicated, but if you take a trip on the Rubicon, please pack it ALL out.

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Do they inforce the red tail light? I don't see any buggies with them unless the buggies are also used for racing.
 

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Do they inforce the red tail light? I don't see any buggies with them unless the buggies are also used for racing.
They could. Right now the primary focus seems to be on registration, but there is a lesser secondary focus on equipment tickets, as well. This is generally related to mudflaps (people can and do complain about debris being kicked up from the road and taking out their windshields), but it could easily extend to the brake light.

As noted above, these are at this time only STRONG recommendations, but the County has considered making them actual requirements.

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I hope they don't pull that mud flap thing, do you realize how many half assed mud flaps would be broken off/lost on the trail due to hitting rocks and draging them on ledges. I already pick up enough cans and trash, don't think I want a mud flap collection as well.
 

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Mudflaps aren't required for the trail... but fenders or flaps are required for Icehouse Road.

Thanks for picking up trash, BTW.... the trail looks damn good right now!

Randii
 
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