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I am thinking on my new project that about 105-110 would be about right. I have noticed that with the ARCA most rigs are going a bit longer than normal. What works and what doesn't? I would like the best overall performance, four wheel steering is a possibilty so turning radius isn't that big of a concern.

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Everybody has their own opinion on wheelbase, so you'll get 50 different answers, but I'd say around a 102" isn't to bad for a happy mediem. ( I've got a jeep so dont listen to me <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0"> )
 

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Yeah, that is what I figured. Everyone will have there own opinion. I have found that just about 105" seems to work well when the front end is a little heavier than the rear.

I heard in one of the mags that a unimog 404 climbed the last waterfall on upper helldorado. They have a 114" wheelbase. I would REALLY like to see pics of that!

I am thinking that just under that would be about right for me.

Thanks for your opinion

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I'd love to see a mog climb that waterfall, Hell i'd like to see pic's of anything climb that sucker with out aid.
 

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Originally posted by Mieser:
<STRONG>I heard in one of the mags that a unimog 404 climbed the last waterfall on upper helldorado. </STRONG>
I read that too, but I don't believe it. Now, if he did it without the winch cable out and taking up the slack as he went I'd be impressed!
 

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105" seems to be a majic number on the trail, not too long, but seems to keep you out of the "Jeep wheelbase" ledges that are dug out on most hill climbs.

I did notice that a large amount of vehicles at ARCA were 115" or so, but some were not wide enough and seemed tippy.

If I were going to build a rig fo ARCA it would be leaf sprung (less bouncy) and 110" and real wide!
 

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Mine is going to be full width( 68" front 65"rear) and 113" WB. I should have her on some stock 30" Dodge wheels and tires today. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> A long way off from running on her own power though.
 

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I am hoping to build something a bit different. I think I am going to try and build a Mog/jeep hybred. It should be fun even if it doesn't work <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

They have been running these combos in finland for many years. They seem to work really well in there off-road trails. I was originally going to see if I could just set a jeep body on a mog chassis. That idea just didn't pan out. The stock 404 mog wheelbase is 114", so it wouldn't have been too bad. It just isn't that simple though. Most everything needs to be relocated. So I get to start from scratch. It really is rather easy to change the mog torque tube suspension length. So I can move the axles around where I want.

I am shooting for 110 I think. Most likely with rear steering.

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I like having a shorter WB and it has it's advantages but I gave up some as well. What type of wheeling do you do? Most of the places we wheel the short WB has worked for me, I guess the questions is what are you going to do with it? <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

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I have wheeled a short wheelbase a lot, I like it for 90% of what I do. For tight trails having about a 80-90 wheelbase is great.

I plan on doing just about eveything I can in the new rig!

One thing I have noticed over the years. I would rather take a little more time getting around a tree or a rock or making a turn than I would having too short a wheelbase on a really steep hill. I feel that is a much more dangerous place to have a problem.

I would like to run any trail in the country with it, so it has to be good at everything but not great at one thing.

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the problem with really long wheelbase is break over angle, so you have to be taller and therfore wider to really take advantage of it. A good example is toyota vs. jeep, toyota guys like to go big. I think a good medium is a little over 100", splits the 115" vs 90". This allows you to keep from getting high centered as easy but still climb really well
 

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I'm preparing to put a Klune or a doubler in my CJ 7. The only hold up now is I'm trying to decide if I want to stretch the wheelbase at the same time. It actually works pretty good now for 75% of what I do but for that other 25% another 6" would be nice. I'm thinking of cutting it in half right at the firewall behind the spring hanger and taking it to 100". Thoughts anyone?
 

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i'm 103 now, i plan a few more inches for the new frame. 103 works pretty good. all my toyota buddies did really good climbing so thats what i shot for. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 
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