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Anyone else running this setup? Wondering where to get the small air bags to help carry the load when I am hauling my toy.
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JC Whitney has them, as does Performance Products... just about any towing place can get them for you <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
 

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Happen to know what a simple set up like that would cost or what a good deal would be? I don't really care if I can control it or not I just want to blow them up off my compressor and be on my way.
 

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Originally posted by coiled:
<STRONG>Anyone else running this setup? Wondering where to get the small air bags to help carry the load when I am hauling my toy.
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What the heck is the rating on that truck, looks sort of scarey to me.. Too much overhang after the axle for my taste. <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/usa.gif" border="0">

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Hope that rigs a dually!!! If I see ya coming , I'm pullin over!! <IMG SRC="smilies/ghost.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/ghost.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/skull.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/skull.gif" border="0">
 

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Think it is too much weight for the 14 bolt? I know it looks pretty obscene with the big tires on it but it is much better with the little ones on for hauling long distances. Any ways to turn the single into dually? Any concerns and fixes welcome, its my first time but I'd like to get it as right as possible.
 

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why don't you get a trailer? the toy is bigger than the truck! <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0">
 

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Here's a bigger pic. Too much overhang:O
Just pull the Toyota up on the cab to center the load more <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
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move the axle in the tow rig back further, it'll drive a lot better (safer) with the weight towards the middle of the truck. That looks spooky as hell.

chop the frame off behind the cab and add about 5 feet onto it. I've seen this sort of thing on trucks before and it didn't look that hard to do.

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Just a thought, Why don't you get rid of the 4 door cab and go to a single cab. That should give you about 36"s to roll the Toy farther forward. Then you can remove most of the rear overhang and your load would be better centered between the axles. Should be a heck of a lot easier & safer than stretching the frame IMHO.
We had a rig simular to that back in the late 60's for our race cars. Had a heck of a time keeping the frame stretch welded up. Course our race cars only weighed 900ibs.
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Most obvious and safest fix is to put that baby on a trailer. If you are fixed on airbags Summit has the "airlift" system for $200. It will level off up to 2 and 1/2 tons. I use this kit on my full size lowrider chevy to pull my racer and it works great. They also have a compressor you can add on to the system for around $100. I would still go with a trailer though. Sweet looking rig. <IMG SRC="smilies/glasses.gif" border="0">

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I was watching monster trucks once and the truck got a flat. They got a onr ton boom truck out and pulled the monster about three feet then he pulled a wheelie about three feer in the air. Sound familar? I agree with a better extention and an axle moved way back. What about a "dummie" axle?
 

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Change your cab over to a single or get a trailer. Don't extend your frame because the extra length will cause too much stress and you will end up bending and cracking it all over the place. <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0"> Unless you want to go to the effort of doubling the frame or at least Scale it.

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We had a rig simular to that back in the late 60's for our race cars. Had a heck of a time keeping the frame stretch welded up. Course our race cars only weighed 900ibs.
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I hope that the guy that was welding your frame has long since retired, or changed his profession. I stretch Road Tractors into Potato trucks all the time and they haul over 40,000lbs, and all we do is butt weld the frames!
 

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WOW that looks really sketchy! <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/skull.gif" border="0">

I'd suggest a trailer... or at least a single cab and a big anti-sway bar for the rear axle since the weight is up so high. Airbags too.
 

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Seems like another big help would be to go find a toy in the junkyard and rape it of it's tires and wheels. That would go a long way toward lowering the center of gravity.

If you trailer it, you may still want to do this and throw the tires on the flatbed of the tow rig. Towing trailers with high C.O.G.s is *spooky* <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"></font>
 

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Originally posted by MasterYota:
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Seems like another big help would be to go find a toy in the junkyard and rape it of it's tires and wheels. That would go a long way toward lowering the center of gravity.

If you trailer it, you may still want to do this and throw the tires on the flatbed of the tow rig. Towing trailers with high C.O.G.s is *spooky* <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"></font></STRONG>
dude check out the for sale section. hint hint!
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mine are for sale!
 

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OK OK so I get the hint that it wasn't such a good idea to build a flat bed in the hopes of hauling my toy. Ugg! 300 dollars down the drain! Funny thing is, I've been driving it around town with the toy on it, and so long as I go slow around corners it feels just fine. I have a removeable 4 foot extention so the actual bed is only 8 feet long the rest is a seperate piece. I was hoping it would fly as I now have 1400 into the chevy, which I guess isn't a lot, but now I have to add the cost of a trailer. So, in looking into car trailers what is a reasonable cost and would it be cheaper for me to build one. Can I get a plan for doing one? I'd rather do it myself. I guess I can still use the flat bed for sleeping on and such, just seems like such a waist not to use it for what I had originally intended.Thanks for the input guys, I don't have a clue when it comes to towing, as you have probably guessed and this is my best first attempt. Thanks again. <IMG SRC="smilies/crybaby2.gif" border="0">
 

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Hey if nobody's looking throw another axle and springs on just the extention. That will help TONS. then all you have to worrie about is breaking the frame off and not tipping over <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> I see two axle trailers FS alot for around 1000+
 
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