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How about this, ya'll have seen the anti-wrap bars for rear ends with the shackle up front and the solid mounnt on the axle. So, I got to thinking about the front torque rod. I hear the're good on road but suck off road. How about keeping the stock t-rod and adding a shackle to the frame mount end. Is this being done? Is this idea lame or OK?

feel free to tear in to this idea.
 

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I've built one on mine for it to work you must build it so its mounted in 2 spots on the diff and can't swivel. It works good but due to the limited space due to steering and height issues its hard to build it triangulated for strength.Mine works good and survives a few good trails and a month or 2 of driving daily but then it work hardens itself from the torque of using it in low range and the constant use of the brakes and it snaps off.I'm using 1" solid bar and have broken it 4 times in 8 months.Its gusseted and looks like a y shape hiems at the shackle mount.Doesn't interfer with the flex at all.

[ 09-06-2001: Message edited by: Pook ]
 

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Just cut my front factory torque arm mount off the frame and the othr end off the front axle housing. The frame mount was about to tear itself off the frame anyway, had to look closely but the crack was almost all the way around the mount...just a half inch more to go and it would have been a strange new noise! Hrhhehehe.

After I cut both mounts off, I ground them smooth and got out the can of flat black rustoleum! Little more bump and torque steer, but it's better than a broken frame!

Crossover steering will fix that someday!
 

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Originally posted by joe_out_west:
<STRONG>How about this, ya'll have seen the anti-wrap bars for rear ends with the shackle up front and the solid mounnt on the axle. So, I got to thinking about the front torque rod. I hear the're good on road but suck off road. How about keeping the stock t-rod and adding a shackle to the frame mount end. Is this being done? Is this idea lame or OK? </STRONG>
By adding the shackle you've eliminated the last inkling of usefulness of the t-rod. Your better off just removing it. The factory setup limits articulation.
 

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Hey BrianR - I like the sig line <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">
 

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I remember the discussion awhile ago about removing the torque arm from the front. The torque arm is going to limit your flex no matter what you do to it. If you remove the bar, whenever you put on the breaks, it allows the front end to move backwards (the torque arm prevents any front axle wrap). This puts all the wrap on the pitman arm, and we all know how weak those are. Not something I would want to happen on the freeway. I'll leave mine on and take it off on the trail until I can afford X over steering.
 

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Originally posted by XTREME DRM:
<STRONG>Hey BrianR - I like the sig line <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
Hey, thought you might. We can agree to disagree, right <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0">
 

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Lose the t-rod, it's useless! Just hold onto the steering wheel real tight and expect to dive to the right real bad when stomping on the brakes. BTW, I almost rolled on the highway the other day from this problem, I hate people that can't wait one more second till I pass to turn off the road. Be carefull folks! <IMG SRC="smilies/jeep1.gif" border="0">
 

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That bar is for controlling bumpsteer, not for wheel hop. when you lift the truck it becomes pretty much useless anyway. DEFINATELY throw it away if you convert to crossover steering!
 
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