[VT_Toy]

I'm thinking about putting some 16" rims and tires on my 4Runner, because they come in 31-33" sizes slightly skinnier than the 15s. Skinnier tires are better in nasty weather, and track better. I'm specifically thinking about 245/75R16 or 265/75R16. Many of these have a extra-heavy load rating, and higher sidewall ply count. Does this mean they actually have a stronger sdiewall? Will it effect the ride quality? I want to keep the 4Runner riding nice <IMG SRC="smilies/glasses.gif" border="0">

I know this isn't exactly a hard-core question, but I figured there's folks with experience with these types of tires.

[ 10-16-2001: Message edited by: Vermont_Toy ]

 

[Old Scout]

I run a 235-85-16 (32x9.5) on my daily driver. There load range E, 3032lbs rating. They weigh 50lbs each! It's over kill for a 4400 lbs Disco.
They were cheap as hell 99.00 ea for Interco TrXus Muds.

[ 10-16-2001: Message edited by: Old Scout ]

 

[66CJdean]

Originally posted by Vermont_Toy:
<STRONG>
Does this mean they actually have a stronger sdiewall? Will it effect the ride quality?

[ 10-16-2001: Message edited by: Vermont_Toy ]</STRONG>

Yes and yes. Not night and day though.

 

[NE-RokToy]

I took my moms truck to get tires to replace the Firestones, and noticed what you probably had, you can't get a good tread in 16" metric without a heavy rating. So I got 10 ply Yoko geolanders and they gave no noticable change in ride and they do have tougher sidewalls. I'm glad I chose those even though the tire shop thought I was nuts for getting them

 

[TEX]

The 245/75's will almost all be in "E" range since that's the stock size GM & Dodge use on their heavy trucks. 265's can be found in "C" range. However, I've found that "D" range 255/85's are even better in snow than "C" range 265/75's - they're also an inch taller <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

TEX

 

[pcorssmit]

I run the 255/85R16s on my DD Dodge, and really like them. Work great in the snow. Roughly a 33X10. 285/75R16 are also the same height, just wider.

Pete

 

[MattS]

I got the wild countries on my Jeep for a great price. Nice mix between a mud and all terrain. They have 2 more ply sidewalls that the BFG muds and it take 5 pounds less air pressure to make them air down and grip the rocks well. They are 265/75/16's and measure
Dimension Tire A: 265/75 R 16 Width 10.437 height 31.65. On the stock Jeep wheels the measure a little higher than the 31.65.
They got better traction in the rocks than the new Xterrains that a buddy was running and did way better in the mud than BFG All terrain's but are about the same highway noise level.

Interested in em? After I get the lift next week I want to go to 33's. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"> They have 2 wheeling trips and 3000 miles on em.

Here's a few pics of the tread.

 

[VT_Toy]

What brand are those Wild Countries? Are they studdable?

 

[MattS]

They are http://www.multimiletires.com/about/index.html

The website says: Excellent Traction With A Quiet Smooth Ride
Treadwear Comparable To All Seasons Designs
Pinned for Studs

At the end of the sipes there is the hole for the studs.

 

[Old Scout]

Originally posted by MattS:
<STRONG>I got the wild countries on my Jeep for a great price. Nice mix between a mud and all terrain. They have 2 more ply sidewalls that the BFG muds
</STRONG>

They do not have two more plys , but have a two more ply rating! Ply rating does not mean the conststruction of the tire , just the load rating look on the side wall I bet it doesn't say it's a 5 ply

 

[MattS]

Damn you. Now I am going to have to go and look. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

Originally posted by Old Scout:
<STRONG>They do not have two more plys , but have a two more ply rating! Ply rating does not mean the conststruction of the tire , just the load rating look on the side wall I bet it doesn't say it's a 5 ply</STRONG>

 

[MattS]

It does not say 5 ply but it does say 4!!! Also load range C. I thought that BFG's only had a 2 ply sidewall? I checked their website and did not find anything.

Originally posted by Old Scout:
<STRONG>They do not have two more plys , but have a two more ply rating! Ply rating does not mean the conststruction of the tire , just the load rating look on the side wall I bet it doesn't say it's a 5 ply</STRONG>

 

[Old Scout]

Originally posted by MattS:
[QB]It does not say 5 ply but it does say 4!!! Also load range C. I thought that BFG's only had a 2 ply sidewall? I checked their website and did not find anything.

BFG's are three side 4 tread and I have never seen a four ply side wall. Four ply tread ya sure , but 4 ply side is new to me. My load range E interco's are 2 steel+2 poly tread, 2 poly sidewall.

 

[NE-RokToy]

Originally posted by MattS:
<STRONG>They are http://www.multimiletires.com/about/index.html

The website says: Excellent Traction With A Quiet Smooth Ride
Treadwear Comparable To All Seasons Designs
Pinned for Studs

At the end of the sipes there is the hole for the studs.</STRONG>

no offense but at slow speed these tires are pretty damn loud! once tere going they didnt seem as load but I've only seen them at speed once When matt was hauling ass away fromn work

 

[Lloyd]

Stay away from the "Standard Load" tires. My daily-driver Z-71 came with 265 Goodyear RT/S and I put rocks through the center of the treads of four of them - THREE IN ONE TRIP! Cut several cords each and wrecked ALL those tires. Went to 245 Goodyear MT's load range E and got 65K miles with 0 flats; good durability but they're just too small for me, and thoroughly worn out now. Next will be TrXus MT's in 255/85 after I rebuild that IFS front end. A little harsher ride from the heavier load tire, but well worth it for the durability.

[ 10-17-2001: Message edited by: Lloyd ]