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If the vehicle came from the factory without A/C, is it possible/ feasible to add a A/C unit on afterward? Also, I noticed some of the '85 4runners had V6's in them. How do these compare with the 22re as far as reliability is concerned? I know the 22re is buletproof, but it would be nice to have a V6 on the street. Anybody have problems with these engines? Also, are V6's available in '85 pickups? How does the 22r compare with the 22re; I don't want to have my engine sputtring every time I go up something steep, but I keep seeing a lot of nice rigs that are carberated. Thanks in advance...... <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/usa.gif" border="0">
 

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22RE EFI is the ONLY way to go, unless you go turbo as well <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by crawlytoy:
<STRONG>If the vehicle came from the factory without A/C, is it possible/ feasible to add a A/C unit on afterward? Also, I noticed some of the '85 4runners had V6's in them. <IMG SRC="smilies/usa.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
Yes you can add air. Pull the whole unit out of another rig, make sure you get everything. All the wiring is more then likely there. V-6 did not come out until 88. <IMG SRC="smilies/usa.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/usa.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/usa.gif" border="0">

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Originally posted by crawlytoy:
<STRONG>Also, I noticed some of the '85 4runners had V6's in them. Also, are V6's available in '85 pickups?
Nope, unless someone has done an engine swap to a 4.3 Chevy or the equivalent.
How does the 22r compare with the 22re; I don't want to have my engine sputtring every time I go up something steep, but I keep seeing a lot of nice rigs that are carberated.</STRONG>
The stock carb will work wonders if clean and set up properly. Make sure it's got a quality rebuild.
 

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how tuff are the front axles for this year, with no modifications. If I were to slap 35's onto a stocker, would I have to worry about breakage, or are they petty tuff? Are these the axles with the infamous birfield steering joints?
 

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Originally posted by crawlytoy:
<STRONG>Are these the axles with the infamous birfield steering joints?</STRONG>
Yep, that's them. How strong are they? Speaking from acquired knowledge (not firsthand experience) I'd say slapping on 35s puts you on the verge of breaking. Seems like 35s and over are where people start practicing for the international birfield speed-swapping competition...on the other hand, it seems lots of people run 35s (and bigger) with a fair amount of success. It depends a lot on driving style, driving skill, terrain, locked/open differentials, and how often Lady Luck is your spotter <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">
 

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you' be fine with 35/36 tires, I have been running 35 bfg's since day one (4yrs) with 5.29's and lockers fr/rr and have only broken two birfields, and yes I take the hard lines. I have run the hammers, Rubicon, etc and have only broken in one place, the Sluice Box. The two were on different years but I have succesfully taken the box at least 7x with no probs. In fact I am going to run 37" tires on my new rig with birfs. It's all in the driving style.
 

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the 22re is awesome. i love it. it is very reliable and i have had the truck for about a year and a half. i spend my money on mods instead of parts for the engine!

you can put a\c in a 85. there is also a place for the button.

the axels are strong. i've jumped (back in the retard days). i haven't broken any birfields yet. but i don't have any lockers yet. good truck and easy to build up!

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anybody have any pics of the A/C compressor on their 22re? I just talked to a guy that said he thinks the A/C was disconnected or something for more power (why not just leave it off?), and it may only need new belts or something to work. I just want to see a complete one so I have something to compare to. I am looking at his truck right now that appears to be in great condition. Has EFI, solid axle, 33's, 4.10's. He's asking $3,500. Any opinions on this price? It has a rebuilt engine that is just past the break in period, and needs the valves adjusted (as customary after break in?). Whatta ya think?
 

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It is very easy to swap a/c onto a truck that does not have it. I traded my a/c for non-a/c parts with a guy I use to work with. We just stripped them down in the parking lot on a slow day at work and traded, all except wiring. As far as disconnected for more power, he might mean that he took off the a/c belt( this is common to do when the compressor clutch goes and people are too cheep to fix it). If that is the case you can just slap a new one on.
 

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$3500 is a good deal IF the body and frame are in good shape.

I'd be careful about buying a "rebuilt" engine, especially one that's so fresh. Problems could show up soon.
 

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$3500 sounds like a good price. The 85s are valuable because they have EFI and a solid axle. You want both of those. Badly.

I love EFI. I love knowing that I can park my truck on a 50* incline in frezzing cold, come back 15 minutes later, and count on it to fire up just like it was in the Wal-Mart parking lot in the middle of July.

I don't think that there's any reason to buy a carbed rig (even though the Yota carbs are better than most, they'll still run badly or stall at steep angles) when you can get an EFI for the same price, which will almost run upside down.</font>
 

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Originally posted by MasterYota:
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$3500 sounds like a good price. The 85s are valuable because they have EFI and a solid axle. You want both of those. Badly.

I love EFI. I love knowing that I can park my truck on a 50* incline in frezzing cold, come back 15 minutes later, and count on it to fire up just like it was in the Wal-Mart parking lot in the middle of July.

I don't think that there's any reason to buy a carbed rig (even though the Yota carbs are better than most, they'll still run badly or stall at steep angles) when you can get an EFI for the same price, which will almost run upside down.</font></STRONG>
my thoughts exactly. I decided I'd rather not even look at any carbed rigs. EFI or nothing. Any idea what an A/C system, everything included would cost from a junkyard? From the dealer ( <IMG SRC="smilies/mad.gif" border="0"> )? Just curious. What can be done to beef up these front axles? Swap in D44 knuckles or something like that? Would it be easier to just put a D44 in?
 

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Originally posted by crawlytoy:
<STRONG>What can be done to beef up these front axles? Swap in D44 knuckles or something like that? Would it be easier to just put a D44 in?</STRONG>
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If you already have the 8" under the truck, you can do a bunch of things:
  • Try not to gas it with the wheels turned full lock.
  • Back the steering stops out as much as possible. Won't turn as sharp, but you'll be easier on the birfs.
  • Get a twin-stick shifter so you can drive in RWD low as much as possible, with a detroit or lockright, or an ARB locker.
  • Use Newfield or Marfield joints. Expensive but marginally stronger than stock birfs.
  • Get the RedLine Birfield eliminator kit. You get D44 axles & joints in a Yota axle.
  • Swap in a hybird axle from AllPro, or a Dana 44 off of something from a junkyard.
See if you can find the post on D44 vs. Toy axle... very new and should be on page 1 or 2 under the Toy section. Lots of info.</font>
 

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Originally posted by crawlytoy:
<STRONG>Any idea what an A/C system, everything included would cost from a junkyard? From the dealer ( <IMG SRC="smilies/mad.gif" border="0"> )? Just curious. What can be done to beef up these front axles? </STRONG>
You cannot get an AC from the dealer any longer, Truck is 16 years old. You may be able to buy all the pieces and parts, but that would cost you an arm and a leg.

Also for the front end run an ARB or Toyota Electric locker, something you can turn on and off. I also have the Redline Birfield Eliminator with Warn hy-alloy axles
 
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