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Questions about Chevy springs.
Ok I did search but nothing answered my questions.
Here they are:
1. Can I use my stock u-bolts and stock spring plates?
2. Can I leave the shocks in factory position?
3. And where is the ideal place to put the front hanger? Some put it 11",11.5" or 12"
4. Can I still carry heavy loads with these springs?

Thanks.

[ 10-10-2001: Message edited by: Wrench ]
 

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Hey Newbie, why don't you first tell us what kind of truck it's going on? Without knowing that, no one can give you good answers. I can give you generic ones though based on an 85 Runner:
1. No.
2. No. Why do the Chevy's if you want the shocks to limit their flex?
3. I put mine 11.5" forward, drop a plumb line from the centerline of where yours is now and then determine how far forward it needs to go.
4. Yes, especially if it has the overload.
 

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First off, and I know this sounds repetative, but do a search! There have been so many posts on this. To answer your questions, 1. I believe the stock u-bolts and plates can be used, but the Chevy's are just a little too wide, so the leafs have to be ground down a little for fitment. I am currently collecting parts for the same swap, and opted to get a u-bolt flip while I'm at it. 2. If the factory u-bolts/spring plates are used, the factory mounts can be utilized for shocks, just use a longer shock, of course. I am going to angle my shocks inward (/\), it doesn't cost that much. If your fabrication skills are limited, just take your junk to a welder and have them weld some shock mounts on for you. It couldn't cost that much (this is what I will have to do since I don't know how to weld very good). 3. I believe the front hanger is moved forward 11.5", but do what Pmurf said and do a plumb bob. That will ensure accuracy. 4. Remember, these springs came off of 1/2 ton trucks, they can support a decent load. FYI, I am putting a Pro Comp add-a-leaf on mine, and hopefully the rest of the lift can be made up with longer shackles. Good luck. Let us know when you finish, we wanna see it! <IMG SRC="smilies/cool.gif" border="0">
 

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Discussion Starter · #5 ·
Ok thanks guys for the replies they really help. I will keep you posted on the project with lots of pics.
I have an 86 Toyota 4x4. I don't want any lift just stock height. I have no lift in the front.
crawlytoy, if you read my post closely I said I did a search first.
 

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I just did my swap last weekend.... here's the specs.....
I located the front hanger 11" forward of the toyota hanger (tire sits dead center when it's stuffed in the fender well...)

I relocated my shocks inward in the triangle formation and went to rancho 5010's (11" of travel)This required welding new mounts on to the axle and to the round x-member on the frame......

I used the factory chevy shackle at the rear and welded another spring hanger just behind the factory toyota hanger. (this way I can cut off the toyota hanger and use it up front for the SAS.....)If I need more lift in the back I'll just get lowering shackles for chevy and bolt em on

I cut off and re-located the brake line bracket so it wouldn't get stretched and break. (extended lines are on the way....)

I used the factory plates and springs but had to remove the overload leaf to get enough thread to show.....

hope this helps....if you have any other questions PM me......
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I did a serch and look what I found in 13 seconds NewBie!
Topic Date Forum
? About T.A.P recycling returns 06-17-2000 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Fordyce/Eagle Lake Trip Pictures! 05-15-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Help with SAS and lift finals before I buy... 05-22-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
3/4 elliptical problems 05-22-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Chevy's 05-22-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!Please!???? 05-22-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Here's my "Bobbing a 4Runner" Article 05-24-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Rear spring swap info? 05-25-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Blocks or addaleafs with rear Chevys?? 05-26-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Rear springs done...What for the front????? 05-29-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
chevy's in the rear 05-28-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Advantages of Hysteer over Crossover... 05-28-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
5.0 swap what front springs should I use 05-29-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Dual Shackles 05-30-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
chevy spring ??? another ? 05-31-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
revalver shakels why there not working?? 06-03-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
4Runner Fiberglass Hard Top Bob Articles is done!!! 06-04-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
63" chevy springs and toyota main buggy... 06-02-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
SPRINGS???? 06-04-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Mazda springs with 3/4 elliptical? (long) 06-05-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Chevy springs on 4-runner 06-08-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Do chevys require the shacle to be moved backwards?? 06-10-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Drive line Question? 06-11-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
3/4 eliptical vs. 1/2 ton chevy w/ dual shackles 06-12-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
chevy 1/2 ton overload.... 06-13-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Wicked IFS flex!!! 06-15-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
More Chevy 1/2ton questions... 06-13-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Pics of my new Runner 06-19-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Spring Length 06-17-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Newbie just saying hi 06-18-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Rear Spring HELP?? 06-22-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Can I use 5 leaf + overload Chevy's? 06-20-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
How popular are other Toyota SAS minis? 06-21-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Tricky electrical problem? 06-22-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
63in chevy swap?? 06-23-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
not another chevyspring post... 06-27-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Rears to match my YJ's 07-01-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
any 4runnerS w/IFS run the con 07-05-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Chev 63" questions... And don't take your shocks off on an '83 with stock springs... 07-08-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
DO IT YOURSELF?

Notice that one in there titled" not another chevyspring post... 06-27-2001"???? yes if you do a serch you WILL FIND A TON OF posts!!! So I ask you, WTF?
 

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Originally posted by SeaBass44:
<STRONG>I did a serch and look what I found in 13 seconds NewBie!
Topic Date Forum
? About T.A.P recycling returns 06-17-2000 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Fordyce/Eagle Lake Trip Pictures! 05-15-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Help with SAS and lift finals before I buy... 05-22-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
3/4 elliptical problems 05-22-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Chevy's 05-22-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!Please!???? 05-22-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Here's my "Bobbing a 4Runner" Article 05-24-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Rear spring swap info? 05-25-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Blocks or addaleafs with rear Chevys?? 05-26-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Rear springs done...What for the front????? 05-29-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
chevy's in the rear 05-28-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Advantages of Hysteer over Crossover... 05-28-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
5.0 swap what front springs should I use 05-29-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Dual Shackles 05-30-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
chevy spring ??? another ? 05-31-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
revalver shakels why there not working?? 06-03-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
4Runner Fiberglass Hard Top Bob Articles is done!!! 06-04-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
63" chevy springs and toyota main buggy... 06-02-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
SPRINGS???? 06-04-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Mazda springs with 3/4 elliptical? (long) 06-05-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Chevy springs on 4-runner 06-08-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Do chevys require the shacle to be moved backwards?? 06-10-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Drive line Question? 06-11-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
3/4 eliptical vs. 1/2 ton chevy w/ dual shackles 06-12-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
chevy 1/2 ton overload.... 06-13-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Wicked IFS flex!!! 06-15-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
More Chevy 1/2ton questions... 06-13-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Pics of my new Runner 06-19-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Spring Length 06-17-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Newbie just saying hi 06-18-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Rear Spring HELP?? 06-22-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Can I use 5 leaf + overload Chevy's? 06-20-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
How popular are other Toyota SAS minis? 06-21-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Tricky electrical problem? 06-22-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
63in chevy swap?? 06-23-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
not another chevyspring post... 06-27-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Rears to match my YJ's 07-01-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
any 4runnerS w/IFS run the con 07-05-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
Chev 63" questions... And don't take your shocks off on an '83 with stock springs... 07-08-2001 Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk
DO IT YOURSELF?

Notice that one in there titled" not another chevyspring post... 06-27-2001"???? yes if you do a serch you WILL FIND A TON OF posts!!! So I ask you, WTF?</STRONG>
WOW Seabass, you really let loose there. I got to admit, the search is great, but lately it has been on the fritz. Thanks god I know everything by now. <IMG SRC="smilies/massey.gif" border="0">
 

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I just get tired of "search don't work" it works, and works great <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0"> I just copied and pasted those 1st 40 finds on search <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> I used c"chevy springs" and search for exact match, not any match. I have my doughts that some people even do a search..........I love the search, it will often find answers you won't get with another hashed over question, because people get tired of putting up there answer over and over and sometimes will not reply again.
 

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SeaBass44 , I'm sorry you were right. i just did a search myself and found more info than I could shake a stick at. I guess i just didn't try that hard before.Thanks for enlightening me. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

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Here's a link to some pics of my 85 that I just finished the swap on. I moved the hanger 11.5" forward and used a 3" extended shackle in the rear. Using an extended shackle gives you mad droop and you don't have to move the rear hanger. I used 3/8" plate and 5/8" bolts for the ubolt flip, with 9012s mounted inward /\.

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http://www.pirate4x4.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=4&t=006283 <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

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Nice Yota. But I see you have some rust starting <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/crybaby2.gif" border="0"> I hate rust!!!
 

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Thanks.... Rust sucks! The other side is rotted exactly the same way. I want to tub it eventually, about 1" down from the wheel well line. The problem with this is the rear seat belt spool is in the way. Anybody have a write up on tubbing these?
 

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Originally posted by Wrench:
<STRONG>Oh and I'm not a NEWBIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</STRONG>
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U been here 2 months..............NewBie!
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Do you always believe what you read? I've been here a lot longer than that. I just started posting then.
 

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Yarddog, Nice yota seems to work well with the chev springs in back. How much will you need to trim front and rear to stuff 35" meats. I also noticed next time you may be leaving the ~top at home~!
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Originally posted by Wrench:
<STRONG>Do you always believe what you read? I've been here a lot longer than that. I just started posting then.</STRONG>
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Rokcrln, I don't know how much to trim the rear yet, the tires are perfectly centered so I'll have to see. Maybe a little in rear of the wheel well. But when I put the 44044s in, I'm going to redrill the perch 1 1/2" back, that should move the front axle 2.5" forward. I hope that will be enough. The rear is going to be tough because I have the 85 axle and it is pretty narrow. I'm probly looking at major frame rubage on the stuffed tire. Spacers are probly in order for that. Or maybe tub the whole thing out. As for the top it's Can Back time! <IMG SRC="smilies/usa.gif" border="0">
 
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