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With my mazda spring combo pack I don't have the lift I need to compensate the front so I made these. All from 1/4" plate with the exception of the 3/4" OD pipe to sleeve the hole for the brake line to pass through the block so they wouldn't be exposed to the rocks. What do you guys think?

** I already know the overall opinion on lift blocks of any kind so those aren't needed <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> **

<IMG width=352 height=288 SRC="http://www.pirate4x4.com/ubb/uploads/springperch1.jpg">


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<IMG width=352 height=288 SRC="http://www.pirate4x4.com/ubb/uploads/springperch3.jpg">

[ 10-02-2001: Message edited by: 2highToy ]
 

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Hope youve got a good supply of springs.....
Looks like youll be bending alot of 'em.
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What the fawk are you smokin <IMG SRC="smilies/question.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/question.gif" border="0"> How long are those goddamn things??? You are not even going to flex at all, plus if you do youll just bend the springs anyways!
Cut about 12" of those fawkers and then they might look ok <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">
 

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i know i would want my spring pad to wrap around the axle at least a little bit. seems like that long thing coming off of it would limit your compression quite a bit as well.
 

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If Im guessing right that is to limit the axle wrap? Everyone is right you will bend springs and torque that mount right off the housing. A traction bar is pretty simple to make and if you want to save money on the two mounting points then just use front toy stock trac bar. Cut the bar off in between the bushings and weld your pipe to the round bushing then all you need is one heim joint on the other end and a shackle. Good thought though it will help wrap if you shorten it. Good luck.
 

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Looks to me like he's going coil over and those are his links. Definately don't need leafs with those. Maybe 1/4 rears <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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Interesting idea.....but....

Yep, perches that long will seriously limit the compression travel of Mazdas.....
which is one of the big benefits of the Mazda swap.
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Hmmm....

I did this for a reason and now I feel justified in what I thought from what you guys have said. I was talking with a local 4x4 builder/designer (and a good friend) and he was explaining to me on how the extended section of the block would help control axel wrap and keep the springs aligned but still allow adequate compression from the rear of the spring pack. I thought that would damage the springs from compressing awkwardly when you only allow the rear of the spring pack to compress like that but I wasn't sure.

Well, the overall length is 12" x 3 1/8" on the top section of the block. Without the extended section its just past 6" long.

The extended section was more to help locate the spring pack then to control axel wrap. I have three different types of springs in the pack and I've had problems keeping them aligned....the damn duct tape keeps breaking <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> But seriously, I was told those u-bolt type of spring clamps aren't good for the springs because they don't allow the springs to slide on one another as the pack compresses. Again, I don't know if that's true or not but it makes sense...atleast to me <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

But that was the main reason I posted the pics before I welded them to the axel tubes was so if I wanted to I could just cut off the extended portion of the spring pad. I already have a traction bar for the rear so axel wrap isn't an issue.

The main reasoning behind this was to resolve my curiosity behind his design but thanks for all the crap you guys gave me.....I mean all the constructive criticism. <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> I've already cut that extended portion off of the block. I just have to round off the leading and trailing edges of the pads and they'll be done

[ 10-02-2001: Message edited by: 2highToy ]
 

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Originally posted by 2highToy:
<STRONG>But seriously, I was told those u-bolt type of spring clamps aren't good for the springs because they don't allow the springs to slide on one another as the pack compresses.</STRONG>
This really depends on how tight the clamps are on the spring. If they are a loose fit on top of the spring they will slide fine. I have friends who have straightened them out and that way they allow for a bit more droop. Another friend straightened them out then took a piece of 3/8’s plate, put it on top of the spring and bent it back over, then removed the plate for a loose fit. <IMG SRC="smilies/usa.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/usa.gif" border="0">
 
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