rotating tires how to?

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toy4x4

Discussion Starter · Dec 14, 2003

searched got nothing. I called around to but no one's open. But when u rotate your tires whats the order you go in. And where to you put the spare. THX

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sw99

· #2 · Dec 14, 2003

rears go to the front and the fronts are criss-crossed to the rear. My lazy ass leaves the spare on the rig, no rotations for me.

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I've always hear don't criss cross the radial tires. I just go front to back and back to front. My lazy ass also leaves the spare where it is. Just check the pressure when ever you check the other tires.

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BrokeYJ

· #4 · Dec 15, 2003

Leave the spare where it is. If they are not cupping or feathering just move them front to rear. If they are feathered or cupped then cross those tires. It is perfectly fine to cross radials. I have heard before that you are not supposed to cross them because it supposedly makes them separate but we do this at work 20-30 times a day with no problems.

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sickfab

· #5 · Dec 15, 2003

Yeah crisscrossing the rears when moved from the front is sort of a newish thing that was discovered by tire gurus. Apparently it works well. You never want to crisscross BIAS tires at all though. they can fail after being broken in in a certain rotation direction then changed.

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daPunk

· #6 · Dec 15, 2003 (Edited)

sickfab said:
You never want to crisscross BIAS tires at all though. they can fail after being broken in in a certain rotation direction then changed.

A vy knowledgeable rep from Pirelli told me that regarding high end radials, too (Was running P-Zeroes on a auto-x car at the time). They may not fail, but they'll wear goofy. Screw criss-crossing. Useless pain in the ass, IMHO.

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Mutt

· #7 · Dec 15, 2003 (Edited)

daPunk said:
A vy knowledgeable rep from Pirelli told me that regarding high end radials, too (Was running P-Zeroes on a auto-x car at the time). They may not fail, but they'll wear goofy. Screw criss-crossing. Useless pain in the ass, IMHO.

I service semi's and trailers all day long 6 days a week, the increase in tire life DRAMATICALLY increases when you criss-cross a set of drives on these vehicles. It is the only effective way of knocking down tire chop in aggressive drives both in radials and bias tires.

The best method is rears straight forward and the fronts criss cross to the rear, in instances where drivers lack proper knowledge and rotate straight up and straight back and complete X'ing of the tires is necessary to slow the the wear from inproper rotations.

A balance check should be done every time you rotate as well, cheap insurance for tires.

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Carcarcouncil.org

Goodyear is new to the game, they don't know either I guess

Michelin is just following the herd

National Highway Traffic & Safety, now they must be blowing smoke...

If there were any slim chance rotation in a criss cross fashion was dangerous the liability of these organizations and companies providing this information would lead to thousands of lawsuits and they would never post this for all to find. DO a search, know the facts, leave out the hearsay...

But if you want to go ahead and watch your $$$ tires $$$ feather, cup, and chop, because a friend of a friend of your grampa that heard said it wasn't safe. Then you go ahead. As for me, i'll trust the 50,000 miles I have on a set of bf at's with 50% tread left that will probably have to be replaced from dryrot as apposed to wear.

Or those poor bastard truckers with hundreds of thousands of miles on their tires, darn that rotation.

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NOODLES

· #8 · Dec 15, 2003

bias l=ply's criss cross, radials, stay on same side of vehicle and go front to rear, and vice versa, if you get a old radial and reverse the direction it original spun on the vehicle, there will be a 50/50 chance of the tread flying off on the freeway. this is why it is not a good idea to buy tires from a used tire shop.

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Mutt

· #9 · Dec 15, 2003

NOODLES said:
bias l=ply's criss cross, radials, stay on same side of vehicle and go front to rear, and vice versa, if you get a old radial and reverse the direction it original spun on the vehicle, there will be a 50/50 chance of the tread flying off on the freeway. this is why it is not a good idea to buy tires from a used tire shop.

Tread will normally only seperate from improper tire pressure, overloading, body ply fatigue, improper tire repair/plugging, or from an improper casing prep process before it is recapped (should it be a recap tire)

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toy4x4

Discussion Starter · #10 · Dec 16, 2003

thx for the help i wnt for fronts straight back and rears criss cross to the front and put the spare on the rear right.

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toy283

· #11 · Dec 16, 2003

FWIW, I got nearly 60K miles out of a set of 40K mile tires by rotating them in a very simple clockwise rotation including the spare. Even when you figure each tire only ran 80% of the time it was still more than the manufacturers projected lifetime.

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45acp

· #12 · Dec 16, 2003

Mutt said:
Tread will normally only seperate from improper tire pressure, overloading, body ply fatigue, improper tire repair/plugging, or from an improper casing prep process before it is recapped (should it be a recap tire)

all of the above is true. changing a radial tire's mounting direction mid-wear wont cause any type of failure. BTW, i build tires for a living. :flipoff2:

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rockcrawler304

· #13 · Dec 16, 2003

45acp said:
all of the above is true. changing a radial tire's mounting direction mid-wear wont cause any type of failure. BTW, i build tires for a living. :flipoff2:

We have a winner!!!
Looks like I will change the way I rotate my tires.

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