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Well here's the deal it's way past time to do a SAS on my Tacoma. What I need to know is would it be cheaper to go with a high pinion RR dana44 off of a mid 70s ford that will need to be chopped to size or go with a dana44 off of a 80s wagoneer that will probably need the knuckles turned to make up for the high angles on the drive shaft? What can I expect to pay to have an axle chopped to size?
 

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fords have the diff on the wrong side, it would take more work therefore more money, though i have not taken this approach. It is a reverse cut with crossover though. Its really a decision that only you can make
 

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Originally posted by Rokcrawla:
<STRONG>fords have the diff on the wrong side, it would take more work therefore more money, though i have not taken this approach. It is a reverse cut with crossover though. Its really a decision that only you can make</STRONG>
Ford 44s are on the correct side for the Tacoma.
 

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Originally posted by Rokcrawla:
<STRONG>fords have the diff on the wrong side, it would take more work therefore more money, though i have not taken this approach. It is a reverse cut with crossover though. Its really a decision that only you can make</STRONG>
Tacoma's have a drivers side drop Newbie <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"> You must be a PCE hu? Don't know what a PCE is? Do a serch under my # in Chit-Chat
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What the hell is a PCE I don't have time to go looking it up and would like to know incase I get called one.
 

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Originally posted by Skulls138:
<STRONG>...would it be cheaper to go with a high pinion RR dana44 off of a mid 70s ford that will need to be chopped to size or go with a dana44 off of a 80s wagoneer that will probably need the knuckles turned to make up for the high angles on the drive shaft?</STRONG>
The Waggy axle will be cheaper and you can use stock or stock-length axles. The RC will keep the driveshaft out of the rocks a little better and give a better driveshaft angle but you may want to turn the knuckles anyway. Once you cut down the housing to a custom length you're pretty much resigned to using custom axles so no bone yard spares for you! Although, some people on here have cleverly cut down axle housings so they are in the ball park but still use stock axle shafts from other applications. A search might pull up the details...

BTW, you want to go to the slab Monday the 20th?
 

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Originally posted by skank-the-sock-puppet:
<STRONG>The Waggy axle will be cheaper and you can use stock or stock-length axles. The RC will keep the driveshaft out of the rocks a little better and give a better driveshaft angle but you may want to turn the knuckles anyway. Once you cut down the housing to a custom length you're pretty much resigned to using custom axles so no bone yard spares for you! Although, some people on here have cleverly cut down axle housings so they are in the ball park but still use stock axle shafts from other applications. A search might pull up the details...

BTW, you want to go to the slab Monday the 20th?</STRONG>
Thanks for the help. I've traded my Mondays for the next two weeks so that I can have those Saturdays and it would figure right after I do that there would be a run to the slab posted. I just can't win. I almost made that run to Bastrop but decided against it that morning and boy I'm glad I did since all they did was drive around looking for the place. I'll be making a run soon because I can't stand it anymore and I'm going to try my hardest to make the next meeting.
 

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Yogi just finished his swap with a wagonner axle on his Taco. I've seen it and if it were me I would do the waggy axle. They are plentiful and cheap. Then with the money you saved put that towards a dual t-case instead of turning the knuckles. If you are gonna use that straight axle on the big rocks you're going to need/want the low gears too.
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<IMG SRC="smilies/confused.gif" border="0"> I am planning on getting a newer 92 yota and want to do the SAS with it. I am running Chevy 1/2 ton springs front and rear and still have the chevy body and axles, I was wondering if you could just use the front Chevy axle and still have it we the same width as a Waggy or Ford front D44?? <IMG SRC="smilies/confused.gif" border="0">
 

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I picked up a 44 out of a 80 'wide trac' wagoneer (yeah, there WAS a narrow trac) for $200 from a junk yard down in south Phoenix (Broadway somewhere). It's 6 lug, disc brake.. hell, I even got the steering arms with it. It measures right bout 61" from wheel mounting point to wheel mounting point. Good luck.

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Originally posted by Skulls138:
<STRONG>What the hell is a PCE I don't have time to go looking it up and would like to know incase I get called one.</STRONG>

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Does anyone know what the cost is on getting the knuckles rotated? Has anyone here done it before? Any recommended shops in nor cal?
 

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Originally posted by SeaBass44:
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That's to funny. I'm sure I will be called one sooner or later. I just figured if it was on the Pirate Board then it must be true.
 

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<IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> I was lookin over ALL PRO OFF ROAD web page and found that they make a Toyota front axle with D44 knuckles, they just replace the birfield joints. I was wondering if any of you have seen, of have one of these conversions and are they anygood. They look easier than getting a Waggy and turning the knuckles or getting a Ford and haveing to make it smaller. INFO on this would be great because they conversion is pretty cheap for a new axle and knuckles!! <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">
 

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<IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> I see that they even make a D60 with a toyota axle, the only proble with them is that they cost a pretty penny, at a cost of $3750, i dont know if it is worth it or to just buy a regular D60!!
 

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Originally posted by ROCKCRAWLINRYAN:
<STRONG> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> I was lookin over ALL PRO OFF ROAD web page and found that they make a Toyota front axle with D44 knuckles, they just replace the birfield joints. I was wondering if any of you have seen, of have one of these conversions and are they anygood. They look easier than getting a Waggy and turning the knuckles or getting a Ford and haveing to make it smaller. INFO on this would be great because they conversion is pretty cheap for a new axle and knuckles!! <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
Cheap??!!! Dude, you must be loaded like Camo! I can get a D44 narrowed, and knuckles rotated for $150!!

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I've seen waggys go for $75-$200.

Unless you've got a Taco, a Ford D44 will do you no good. Wrong side diff drop. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 
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