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Sorry I didn't get this out on time, folks...

At the El Dorado County ROC meeting last Thursday, we evaluated potential projects by rating them from 1 (least important) to 5 (most important) based on the following categories:
* (PL) potential physical loss of trail (does loss of section, put trail at risk? does bypass exist?)
* (EI) environmental improvement (what's the environmental risk of NOT doing it?)
* (Sf) safety (does section pose threat to user safety, as it exists?)
* (US) user satisfaction upon completion (will users consense that the result is good?)
* (St) story (how attractive is this, in terms of headlines?)

The ROC brainstormed a list of the possible projects for 2008, and then we mailed the general ROC mail list a spreadsheet of that project list to rate on the above scales.

Here are the aggregated scores of the project rating exercise we did at the last meeting, highest priority to lowest priority:
1.) Big Sluice Drainage (perhaps 2009)
2.) Buck – Side Slope (check with SMUD, small improvements available sooner)
3.) Walker Hill – continue maintenance
4.) Rock Fill – Tahoe Side (1000 cubic yards of gravel) (RTP Grant)
5.) (HiLo’s) Water Bars – Tahoe Side (MAY – while it’s wet)
6.) Wentworth – Phase II
7.) Placer County: Close bypasses above Cadillac Hill
8.) Trailhead Signage
9.) Water @ WW campground (1/4 mile west)

This is not necessarily the order in which these will be addressed, but it sets a pretty clear priority for the order in which they will be requested, at the ROC level. There is risk that we may get a donor coming in with bucks, choosing from the menu out-of-priority, based on their own external values, but I don't see much that we can do about this.

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The rock fill on the Tahoe side is scheduled for September after Labor Day.

Hopefully most of this will be done with dump trucks run in from Barker Pass Road.

The water bars were partially addressed this past May. Number 10 needs a full rebuild. We should do this right after the rock fill project.

The Cadillac issue should be addressed during the July FOTR work party.




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Thanks for the update, Doug -- I fully dig the way El Dorado is stepping up to prioritize projects and then execute them... this is the way government SHOULD run, and it is a breath of fresh air. Kudos as well to your work with Placer County on the East Side... I'm planning to put in some work up on that end, as well this year. While Placer County doesn't have anything like the ROC, clearly, they are doing good work and working with trail users, FOTR, and RTF. :cool2:

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Also for reference, here's the full sample of projects that was on the list where ROC voted:
- Big Sluice Drainage (perhaps 2009)
- Little Sluice Work (later than 2009)
- Winter camp - west of LS (2009 for big work, small projects available sooner)
- Walker Hill – continue maintenance
- Buck – Side Slope (check with SMUD, small improvements available sooner)
- Wentworth – Phase II
- Toilet at Loon Lake near spillway (CXT)
- Placer County: Close bypasses above Cadillac Hill
- Placer County: Diverting water off Cadillac Hill – water bars, bypasses
- Placer County: Discuss rerouting trail to higher area near Miller Creek (was main trail long ago)
- Wentworth Kiosk
- Replace bottom-of-bowl range fencing with already-funded USFS grant
- Rework rock-ramp off the slabs at the 2003 reroute away from Pleasant Lake
- Signs and reflectors
. * Spider Lake to Buck, across the private slab bypass to True Old Sluice
. * Wentworth Springs to Ellis Creek, County to map centerline
- (HiLo’s) Water Bars – Tahoe Side (MAY – while it’s wet)
- Water @ WW campground (1/4 mile west)
- Rock Fill – Tahoe Side (1000 cubic yards of gravel) (RTP Grant)
- Old Sluice – Top end rockfill work by the tree roots
- Repeater House on private property for year-round HAM radio network
- Kiosk Deck Railing
- Bypass @ Alligator
- Trailhead Signage
 

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The trail near Miller will NOT be rerouted around the water hole. That was the main reason for the new grant for lots and lots of rock. We plan on filling that hoel and all of the water hole on the trail on the Tahoe side.

The Lake Tahoe Basin Management Unit has approved a kiosk for the Tahoe staging area. It is a preliminary approval but I trust it will be finalized when we come forward with a plan and materials.

Anyone have a 6x8 shed to donate and material for a deck?




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Of these, FOTR has already addressed signs and reflectors west of Ellis Creek to Wentworth and Loon, the bypass just pass the Alligator Pit, drainage to the trail between Gatekeeper and the bowl, and trail maintenance and drainage work near Wentworth Springs campground, as well as in the campground itself. RTF has worked hard to pull together approval, funding, and materials for the Rubicon Repeater Vault, and FOTR's excellent volunteers will finish up the building before July. FOTR also has Walker Hill work already in discussion, as are repairs to the kiosk deck and railing. FOTR and Jeepers Jamboree are coming together in historic partnership to address several maintenance efforts between Miller Creek and Observation Point,

El Dorado County (EDC) has scheduled work for Wentworth Springs Phase II. El Dorado National Forest (ENF) is working permits and approvals for installation of an Oil Cleanup Vault (similar to what's currently next to the Loon Kiosk) at Wentworth Springs Campground, along with repair and small expansion of the Range Fencing at the bottom of the bowl. Our State Parks OHV Division and EDC are working closely together to install the vault toilet at Loon Lake near the spillway (CXT), with permit assistance from ENF... and I'm working with OHMVR and EDC to print large-scale versions of RTF's map for the trailheads.

Doug already gave an update, but just to restate, the Hi-Lo's already maintained most of the water bars in the Lahontan Basin in May, and have planned more thorough maintenance on the #10 water bar after the rock fill project. Placer County is using RTP grant funds to work towards substantial rock fill work in September.

...you could say things are getting done, here in 2008, and I'm extra-stoked to see how these tasks mesh up with the project list put together earlier this year. Great things are being done with BOTH counties, on both ends of the trail.

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The trail near Miller will NOT be rerouted around the water hole. That was the main reason for the new grant for lots and lots of rock. We plan on filling that hoel and all of the water hole on the trail on the Tahoe side.

The Lake Tahoe Basin Management Unit has approved a kiosk for the Tahoe staging area. It is a preliminary approval but I trust it will be finalized when we come forward with a plan and materials. Anyone have a 6x8 shed to donate and material for a deck?
Excellent -- thanks for the clarification, Doug -- this is what happens when I post stuff this delayed... reality comes in with updates.

I'm stoked at the possibility of building/sourcing a kiosk for the Tahoe side... can you work with the agencies on Friday's field trip to identify a site?

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FOTR, RTF, ROC et. al.

We are already underway with an awesome season for 2008. Things are getting done big time and with big smiles.

Some folks may not understand the connection with FOTR, ROC, RTF and EDC and ENF, so here's a quickie for you.

First off, I posted up a lot of the ROC info from Randii here on the Rubicon Trail Home Page so you know what's up with jobs and priorities in one place (with some edits likely, perhaps, after folks review it) :smokin:
See the list and the complete update of where we are right here:
http://www.delalbright.com/Rubicon/roc_priorities_2008.html

Now as to the connections:
FOTR (Friends of the Rubicon) is the work force (informal) that maintains the trail and leads our effort of fixin stuff and doing jobs on the ground; as well as taking political action when needed. Trail Patrol is part of FOTR that leads our on the ground education efforts (with funding support from RTF).

RTF (Rubicon Trail Foundation) is the fund-raising, public-educatin', idea-creatin' arm of our effort with a real IRS non-profit status. Donations for FOTR fund-raising efforts go to RTF who supports FOTR jobs. RTF and FOTR sit at the table of ROC.

ROC (Rubicon Oversight Committee) is the official body for action on the Rubicon Trail for El Dorado County, because the Rubicon is a county road.
These folks line up the jobs to repair and maintain the Rubicon Trail (with our help of course). It's the El Dorado (EDC) County Department of Transportation (DOT) that now has oversight of the Rubicon Trail (as a county road). This is way good news for us.

ENC (Eldorado National Forest) surrounds the Rubicon Trail and has jurisdiction on all the spur and side roads, off-trail camping, wood-gathering, parking, etc.

I hope this helps.
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Del did a great job of describing all the various inter-relationships and connections... it does get complicated, but as noted above, El Dorado and Placer Counties are moving well ahead with OHMVR and RTP funds to their right-of-ways, and as always, FOTR is there to be the volunteer work-force to get it done and track the hours to assist with grant-matching, and RTF is working hard to support a bunch of Rubicon projects -- many of which are staffed by FOTR. Sometimes it gets confusing which side of the checkbook I'm on, but with so many good folks working hard to maintain the Rubicon Trail, and retain year-round access, we figure it out.

I'm proud of what we've all been able to do together, and proud of my participation on the ground for FOTR and in the office for RTF. I've been focusing on RTF but still attending FOTR work parties... RTF is having a great year, and we're working hard to fund Rubicon-related projects (among them FOTR food and supplies), and build funding for other education/environmental purposes. RTF will have a new website out this summer with more details, but I am stoked to report on the good stuff that's already in motion!

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