[miniyota]

what is on these shackles. i keep seeing these, what are they for?
http://www.rockcrawler.com/trailreports/kremmling_2001/index.asp
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[Brandon]

common Moab toy - AOR sells em I believe - just wheels so when your shackle hits there is less drag..

I just use MOmentum <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

[ 09-04-2001: Message edited by: Brandon ]

 

[gonewheelin]

there aor orbit eye shackles. go to aor4x4.com

 

[miniyota]

i kinda thought that but wasn't sure. <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">

 

[OOP'S]

Originally posted by gonewheelin:
<STRONG>there aor orbit eye shackles. go to aor4x4.com</STRONG>

All-Pro use to sell them also, I do not know if the still do.

 

[Pook]

I think chris said they weren't holding up that good not sure though.

 

[AOR]

The shackles are our H-Style shackles, The Rock-Wheels are a seperate item... The 18mm shaft replaces the existing lower shackle bolt, then the wheel slides on and is pined in place. I have them in stock...try this, www.aor4x4.com/rockwheels.htm

 

[Dirty Harry]

Not to bag on AOR but just to give you another option, Way Off Road sells casters for shackles too and they are all metal construction and less expensive. Kevin Grove (from AOR) was the first person that -I- ever saw do this though, so I have to give him props for that.

 

[AOR]

Originally posted by Dirty Harry:
<STRONG>Not to bag on AOR but just to give you another option, Way Off Road sells casters for shackles too and they are all metal construction and less expensive. Kevin Grove (from AOR) was the first person that -I- ever saw do this though, so I have to give him props for that.</STRONG>

the wheels are the easy part, the shaft that goes through the shackle is a custom machined part, to fit through the shackle, and has a stem for the wheel to spin on.. We also tried to use wheels with greaseable bearing, and the rollers wouldn't hold up to the elements, even with alot of greasing..

 

[DRM]

Seems kinda kooky to me... and would actually drop your grouns clearance there by what... another 2" or so?

Making it hang down further so you can use thr wheels seems counterproductive *to me*... Kinda like mounting wheels under your diff so you don't scrape your diff but you give up a couple of inches clearance and hit more rocks in the process <IMG SRC="smilies/confused.gif" border="0">

 

[Dirty Harry]

Originally posted by AOR:
<STRONG>the wheels are the easy part, the shaft that goes through the shackle is a custom machined part, to fit through the shackle, and has a stem for the wheel to spin on.. We also tried to use wheels with greaseable bearing, and the rollers wouldn't hold up to the elements, even with alot of greasing..</STRONG>

Thanks for the response AOR, I didn't realize that. I guess that more work goes into these than I thought. I was under the impression that you just needed to bolt on a longer lower shackle bolt and get it.

Originally posted by DeeAreEmm:
<STRONG>Seems kinda kooky to me... and would actually drop your grouns clearance there by what... another 2" or so?
</STRONG>

Well why do you have that big ol' Bull Bar on the front of your truck that hangs way down? Wouldn't you have more clearance and a better approach angle with an All-Pro style bumper? (Just playing Devil's Advocate)

The rollers are only 3 1/2 inches in diameter and they are mounted through the bolt of the shackle, so they will only hang down about an inch. The idea is that you can ROLL off of rocks instead of burying your shackle into them. Somehow I have a feeling that you already knew that though...

 

[DRM]

Originally posted by Dirty Harry:
Well why do you have that big ol' Bull Bar on the front of your truck that hangs way down? Wouldn't you have more clearance and a better approach angle with an All-Pro style bumper? (Just playing Devil's Advocate)

It doesn't hang down any lower than All Pro's bumper for example... except on very ends - but I prefer to have the bumper for use to walk around the truck like I do <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

As for approack angle - again it is better than most since the bumper pulles the winch in as far as pissible without cutting the core support out, and the only thing sticking out is the roller fairlead - which any winch would have...

The rollers are only 3 1/2 inches in diameter and they are mounted through the bolt of the shackle, so they will only hang down about an inch. The idea is that you can ROLL off of rocks instead of burying your shackle into them. Somehow I have a feeling that you already knew that though...

I just doubt the reasoning in making it more likely to hit just so you can "roll" off the obstacle... But hey - to each his own <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">

 

[rpenner54]

Originally posted by DeeAreEmm:
<STRONG>I just doubt the reasoning in making it more likely to hit just so you can "roll" off the obstacle... But hey - to each his own <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

Ever been to Moab? Out there I can see a use for them. No where else that I have been do they even seem slightly useable. On my truck they would just keep me from sliding on the bumper constantly. They do seem silly for most other areas of the world though. Untill you have seen how moab does this I wouldn't totaly bag it. Although I wouldn't want to run em, just because I am like Brandon I will power it out.

 

[rockota]

Originally posted by rpenner54:
<STRONG>Ever been to Moab? Out there I can see a use for them. No where else that I have been do they even seem slightly useable. </STRONG>

What about backing up? <IMG SRC="smilies/confused.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/confused.gif" border="0">
Yeah, you can always drag OFF a rock going forward, but what if you need to back up a rock and your shackle is hitting???
can't say it's actually happened to me, but thought I'd at least ask the question...

 

[rpenner54]

Originally posted by Rockota:
<STRONG>What about backing up? <IMG SRC="smilies/confused.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/confused.gif" border="0">
Yeah, you can always drag OFF a rock going forward, but what if you need to back up a rock and your shackle is hitting???
can't say it's actually happened to me, but thought I'd at least ask the question...</STRONG>

Like I said I wouldn't run em, I can just see their point. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"> Here is another one to throw out there, what if you do a wheel stand of sorts on em? That could get nasty. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"> Like I said, I see the point of them in moab but I think its more to keep a bumper pretty and a shackle pretty too. Not to serve a real purpose.