Ever been to Moab? Out there I can see a use for them. No where else that I have been do they even seem slightly useable. On my truck they would just keep me from sliding on the bumper constantly. They do seem silly for most other areas of the world though. Untill you have seen how moab does this I wouldn't totaly bag it. Although I wouldn't want to run em, just because I am like Brandon I will power it out.