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Don't have a clue about the legality, as I try to avoid California like the plague, but I've yet to have a "gun shipping" episode that wasn't five times the pain in the ass that flying with one ever was..
 

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First, make sure your gun won't be illegal here, if you're hunting with a normal long-gun, you're probably in the clear, but double check.

Place it in a box w/ample padding, address it to yourself at your end destination, insure it and don't worry about it. They don't x-ray, they don't inspect shit, FedEx is probably the largest drug trafficer in the nation, and they don't even know it. If they lose it and you have to make a claim, you "didn't see" the policy about shipping guns and show them the ATF FAQs, they'll pay.
 

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In the fall I'm flying down to CA for a hunting trip. I want to ship b/c cheking at the airport is a PITA and I dont like the BS. I just want it shipped ahead of me. Any issues with that crap?

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Have you had trouble from TSA regarding travelling with firearms? Two years ago I flew to Huntsville Alabama to hunt with my brother. I too, had heard all kinds of horror stories about travelling with checked firearms. In reality, the process was really quite painless, and cheaper than shipping the rifles I wanted to hunt with from California to Alabama, and back again.

There were probably two precautions I took prior to making the hunting trip with my rifles that made things less troublesome, and gave me added piece of mind:

First, I purchased my round trip airline ticket with a credit card that offered the benefit of insurance coverage for lost and stolen luggage (and it's contents). Airlines are pretty definitive about only paying so much for lost or stolen luggage, and high dollar items like electronics, jewelry, and sporting equipment (like firearms) are usually exempt. The credit card I used to purchase my tickets covered me in the event that my rifles were lost or stolen (up to $1500/item).

Second, use a high quality case for your firearms. I used a Pelican Storm Case im3300 that I purchased at a yard sale. Not only is the case extremely tough and durable, but it meets or exceeds all of the TSA's requirements for transporting firearms.

That being said, the TSA ass-hole in Palm Springs wasn't too well versed on their own regulations, and tried to insist that I relinquish the keys to my locks so that he could take the case back into a secured area to inspect my rifles absent my presence (he said I couldn't accompany him into the secured inspection area). The TSA web site states clearly that the case IS NOT TO BE OPENED without you being present, and that the keys to your locks are to remain in your custody only. I simply remained calm and stood firm until the TSA bozo finally retrieved a supervisor from the back. The supervisor was nice, and politely invited me back into the secured area where she verified that my rifles were unloaded. She then placed the orange TSA chit in the case, and I was allowed to close it up and even witness it being loaded onto the aircraft prior to boarding the plane myself.

The return trip from Huntsville was utterly uneventful; no issues what so ever. I would have no qualms about flying with my firearms again.
 

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I've flown with handguns (relatively recently) and it was super easy. Far easier than shipping anything.
 

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It is easier to fly with them than ship. The TSA and the airlines do everything possible (almost hand walk them to the destination aircraft) because everyone (airline, ATF, police) will get in a tizzy if a firearm is lost at an airport or stolen or whatever. I travel with all sorts of stuff on a very regular basis. Show up a few minutes early, have a nice case as mentioned above, tell the ticket agent you want to check a firearm. They will escort you to the TSA person, they will look in the case and make sure it is in there and not loaded, then they want YOU to lock it and place stickers on it and all sorts of stuff. Then it is taken (by hand, no riding on the conveyers and getting lost) to your gate. No kidding, very safe way for your stuff to fly.
 

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Taking guns on planes isn't that bad. They have to be in a locking hard case like a Pelican and you check it at the counter, sign a slip of paper and put a copy in the case. $20 usually and done. If shipping, just make sure it's boxed well and padded. Tell the shipper that it's "sporting equipment". Piece of cake...
 

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Can you find an FFL in CA near where you are going to be. You can legally ship via Fed Ex to a FFL. I used to do it all the time. I would ship it to myself (easiest way to prove the receiver was an FFL, at work. )
 

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It is easier to fly with them than ship. The TSA and the airlines do everything possible (almost hand walk them to the destination aircraft) because everyone (airline, ATF, police) will get in a tizzy if a firearm is lost at an airport or stolen or whatever. I travel with all sorts of stuff on a very regular basis. Show up a few minutes early, have a nice case as mentioned above, tell the ticket agent you want to check a firearm. They will escort you to the TSA person, they will look in the case and make sure it is in there and not loaded, then they want YOU to lock it and place stickers on it and all sorts of stuff. Then it is taken (by hand, no riding on the conveyers and getting lost) to your gate. No kidding, very safe way for your stuff to fly.
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Ha! Ha!.....HA! Oh gosh. No.

Ha! Want pics?

You can legally ship long guns without an FFL at USPS. No FEDEX or UPS needed. However, it is fully in UPS' and Fedexs' policies that any old clown can ship a gun through their main hubs. If someone told you different, they are wrong. Their regs are on the intertoobs, print em lout, take em in, tell they will ship it. Easy.
 

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Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Ha! Ha!.....HA! Oh gosh. No.

Ha! Want pics?

You can legally ship long guns without an FFL at USPS. No FEDEX or UPS needed. However, it is fully in UPS' and Fedexs' policies that any old clown can ship a gun through their main hubs. If someone told you different, they are wrong. Their regs are on the intertoobs, print em lout, take em in, tell they will ship it. Easy.
I had a fex ex lady in MO tell me I could not ship them (after having done it about 40 times) I asked her nicely to call and ask corporate, where she was promptly told that it was ok.

FYI FedEx can and WILL break pelican cases. I have had latches broken, hinges broken, handles broken, and even a corner crushed.
 

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FYI FedEx can and WILL break pelican cases. I have had latches broken, hinges broken, handles broken, and even a corner crushed.
Yep, I've told this before but UPS broke a CI cylinder head IN HALF while in transit to me. There is nothing they can't break Period.
 

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I flew with an AR. Bought a $17 hard case at Bass Pro and a couple cheapie brass locks. Baggage check lady had me open the case right there at the counter (tons of other people around) to verify it was unloaded, gave me the orange tag to fill out, then said to put it in the case for the TSA and lock it back up.

There were less scratches on the case when I got to my destination then when I bought it. The must've known how cheap the case was and didn't want to risk being liable for it or something. :laughing:
 

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Just check it in at the counter in a locked hard-case. Ammo in factory box in checked bag. Done.

Upon arrival go to special gate and they will hand it back to you.
 
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