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I have a guy that is willing to give me a rig, minus axles for free. I need the tranny, bellhousing, linkage etc out of it for an auto to manual swap.

The hitch is that he doesn't have a title for it, bank stil has it for collateral on a loan. My worry is possesion and stripping when the bank still technically owns it.

I have been out of town, but may have the time next week to go get it. So i need to decide fast..
 

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If the bank has a lein on it and you take it and remove parts from it they could file theft charges against you. My advice would be to pass on it untill your buddy gets the title
 

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I really don't think that they can track things like tranny unless they have a vin number.I would stay away from thing that have vin numbers a no titles.Go ask the bank that has the title what you can do.?
 

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<IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> I bet if you bought it from him for a dollar and had him sign a bill of sale, you'd be OK.... but then what are you going to do with rest of the truck when your done??
 

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I was sort of in the same situation for a few months. I bought a truck for cheap to use for parts and it did not have a title. I got it anyway and chopped it up. Pulled the parts I wanted and sold the rest and made a trailer out of the bed. I took the cab and half the frame to the car crusher. All I needed was an NCIC form which says the vehicle is not stolen via the vin number of it. Go to the mvd first and ask to get a printout of an NCIC and give them the vin #. It was free for me at my mvd. If it turns out clear buy it for some small amount of money and get a bill of sale. It is really up to you if you want to take the chance though that something might happen.
 

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I know someone who has parted a couple of trucks out <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> and cut the rest into pieces small enough to fit into a dumpster and threw out what was left over a few week period. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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I would stay out of the situation totally! If you really need the parts, take them from him and leave the rig with him. Sounds like something that can come back t bite you if you take the vehicle off of his property.

Why is it that the bank still has the title and he wants to sell the rig? Sounds like legal issues to me... Stay away!
 

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I agree with SweetCJ7. Take the parts and leave the rig with your friend. Even a bill of sale won't help you.

I just junked a VW carcass that I bought for parts. I needed to go to DMV to get a junk slip before I could take it to the steel recycler.

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I have a truck in CO I got like that and tried to take it to the recycler, and they said no way. Luckily, I have the land to keep it there.
When I go back to CO I will teach my son to use the torch on it and make it into a BUNCH of smaller pieces.
 

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get a bill of sale and keep the guys telephone number and paperwork handy.

if the vehicle isn't reported stolen you should be allright, the way you'll get screwed is if the MAN finds a bunoch of parts/chopped car in you truck/shop/garage and you can't reliably show where it came from. Without some documents they'll assume you're chopping stolen cars.

I've rid myself of a bunch of these that the DMV wanted me to pay for junk slips on. They were cut into pieces I could fit into trash cans and the last part I threw away was the part with the VIN on it. i made sure I had the title/bill of sale in my wallet at all times till the thing was completly gone.

but most importaintly, make sure to call the CHP and DMV before you take it, DO NOT EVER take peoples word on this. Have them also state on the bill of sale that you are buying parts and this is the VIN that is on the parts.

[ 10-21-2001: Message edited by: scottz ]
 

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Well first off - if you were gonna do it announcing it for the world to read ont he internet is not the best choice <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0">


I have purchased several vehicles without titles before. I just go by "feel" on the seller, the vehicle condition, etc. as to whether or not I go for it.

IMHO - your seller sounds pretty fishy - watch out. If you need the parts, buy the parts from him and be done with it.

I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure you cannot buy/sell a vehicle with a lein on it until the leinholder has been taken care of, or at least notified of the transfer.
 

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My concern isn't gettin rid of the unused portion. It is if this guy doesn't pay off the loan, and the bank comes to get it, and he says "A guy in washington has it and his number is 555-1234."

I dont know if he will part with just the tranny. He states his wife wants it out of their yard. He said he didn't intend on paying off the loan for a couple years so...

Looks Like I'll ask about the tranny only....after all, nothing to lose. With my job I can't afford to even be accused of theft...

Thanks for the advice..BTW in Washington a bill of sale doesn't mean a thing...That is directly from the MAN....
 
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