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I have one on my 81, and the question is, how much of a winch will one hold? Does anyone have a big warn mounted on theirs?? I have a chance to buy a nearly new 8000 pound warn for 200 bucks, and need to know if it will hold it? When I bought it, the instructions said it was a 5000, or 6000 pound winch bumper, but I dind't know if this was a weight rating only, or width, or what. Thanks
 

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I used an 8,000 pound winch on one for a while but those bumpers flex alot with any winch <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0">
 

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<FONT COLOR="Red"> Shittybuilt bumpers are OK, but the mounts absolutely SUCK. Once you torch off the mounts and re-do them the tight way (not using the body mount as an attachment point) you will have a much stronger setup. It's also good to weld cover over the ends where those cheezy plastic caps go.</FONT c>
 

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I have a 9000k superwinch on mine. I got a
1\4" plate 7.5" x 23.5" and welded it to the top and beefed up all sides with angle iron and made extra mounts as well as putting in a rec. hicth up there. I hope these pics can help you out. Ive tugged, pulled and winched very heavily with it and it works great.
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What everyone else said its a decent bumper but only with the proper mounting. I had a friend rip his whole smitty off his truck took the bumper and front body mounts with it. <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"> You need to fab something stout to prevent it from failing on you and maybe hurting someone in the process. They will fit larger winches with ease. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

[ 10-25-2001: Message edited by: j4x485 ]
 

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"Shittybuilt" bumpers are "weak". Putting a winch on one is asking for a BIG PRETZEL <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by Shaker:
<STRONG>"Shittybuilt" bumpers are "weak". Putting a winch on one is asking for a BIG PRETZEL <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
Not if you Beef the mounts up, that is their weak point. <IMG SRC="smilies/usa.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/usa.gif" border="0">
 

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No winch, but here's how I built new mounts:





Its a much MUCH sturdier bumper now. I doubt it even flexes any more when I hi-lift off it. I built a receiver into my crossmember for a possible future winch...

[ 10-26-2001: Message edited by: Erik Beeb ]
 

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thanks for all the info, I can certainly see how both solutions shown greatly beef up the mounting of the bumper as compared to the little brackets and crap on mine that are stock, and would help a ton when wenching, etc. The bumper on mine feels pretty sturdy now, but I can see how after it flexed a bit up and down under a load it would bend the small brackets silly. The hitch is a great idea too, but I can also see that both trucks shown have fairly large body lifts on them, and that gives you a good mounting/welding point to the frame. Mine has no body lift whatsoever, so I can't fab brackets nearly that big, I will try and take a pic of it tonight w/ my digital cam and show you what I mean.
 

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You can still make beefy mounts for a truck w\ no lift. If you look at the top pic on mine (the blue 1) you can see 2 holes above my new bolts, thats where it bolted until I went to a BL. The bottom pic is w\ no BL.
I like the cut ears one the other 1 and thats now in my plan for a bit of room.

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My Runner only has a 1" bodylift...
 

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<font color="yellow">I'm in the same boat as most of those who have posted to this thread: I started with a "weak" bumper. Mine was a warn classic style for a Bronco II. They tend to flex in the winch bucket when the standard mounts are used, so we burned new weld around the edges of the winch cradle to beef them up. (I'd heard something about the weld falilinga and eliminating the structural integrity of the winch cradle).

Yu can see my new 1/4" plate mounts welded to the ends of the framerails here: (Just for more ideas)

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MASTER YODA, I see you are from Memphis, we will have to get together and wheel sometime, I'm in Jackson. Where do you go riding, the Wolf River?? I need to find a good place to get in the mud, once I get my locker put in that is.
 

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haha purely for a joke, or for those of you who forgot the meager mounting system, here is my virgin bumper with it's massive supports and all ;p so any reccomendations as to what type of reinforcing to use w/o a body lift??



 
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