Been there, done that twice.lrover73 said:Anyone have any info about going spring over with a series. I know the front cross member would be a problem but I was thinking a high pinion, do you think that would be enough or would I have to trim x-member still?
J-L,HandBuilt said:The front springs are pretty short for a good spring over, you would probably want to extend the horns and run YJ springs at least.
Way too much arch unless you de-arch them which is a bitch for paras. I run almost flat rover springs (88 rear on front, 109 rear on rear, both de-arched) , about 1" rise is perfect in my case but it makes for a bit of a belly dragger. You have to make sure shit is tucked up into the frame.aloharover said:J-L,
do you think 4 rear parabolics will work or do they have too much arch?
Do you need a flat spring for a SOA?
still waiting on photos of your steering set up :flipoff2:
Well if he flakes let me know. I can shoot ya some $$ and my addressHandBuilt said:The high steer arm I have for a coiler knuckle is sitting around unused. It's 1" cold rolled, milled and welded, and then hot dip galvied. Kirk Hillman wanted it, but I dunno if he still does.
It's a height thing amongst other issues. Think about it - Do you really want your rig 6-7" higher than it is? The driveline angles would be crap, the truck would be scary to drive. It would roll anywhere.aloharover said:OK so why flat springs for SOA? Is it because of spring wrap or height?
NopeHandBuilt said:It's a height thing amongst other issues. Think about it - Do you really want your rig 6-7" higher than it is?
I wish I could move that damn crossmember! Honestly, I can't. The oil pan from the cummins is about 1/2" forward of it, and the tranny pan is about 1" behind it. Rear from that is a big ass skidplate/tranny support/transfercase support and forward of that is the oilpan... then the front axle. I have to leave the POS right where it is unless I want to drop it down lower, a lot lowerModifried said:Just cut the offending cross member out. Its a rock anchor. You can re-fab a stronger new one and relocate it elswhere. Cooper has done this on all his SOA conversions and it works. Handbuilt has it right with the 88" rear springs up front, gives lots more flex and a cushy Caddy ride to boot. only downside is adds approx. 6" to front frame horns.
BTW, if you keep the stock front springs up front on an SOA you'll likely crack 'em at the perch area. Check them often.
Sewer pipe - you like that, huh?64rovr said:hey JL we're still waiting for pics of your mastery, until then it exists in the same realm as my rig... the sewer pipe of dreams :flipoff2:
Stay sprung under then - it's a lot of work, your truck seems to work OK as is. The brakes are a nice upgrade.aloharover said:Nope
There are ways around that issue but it involves more work then its probably worth.
All I wanna do is stick the front axle under my truck. The 6" wider stance and disc brakes are my goal.
Has anyone used a coil axle in a spring under situation?HandBuilt said:Stay sprung under then - it's a lot of work, your truck seems to work OK as is. The brakes are a nice upgrade.
aloharover said:Has anyone used a coil axle in a spring under situation?
How did you do the front, cut away on the dif housing or built up a perch?
Thanks,ISUZUROVER said:I have seen it done before - you build a perch the same as a series front axle has. The hard part is the track rod. It wants to be where the springs are. If you have a LHD axle you need to get a swivel housing from a British or Australian LR, with the drag link mount on the other swivel. So then you can fit a toyota style combined drag link/track rod on the front of the axle instead of the rear.
So was it originally a coiler front Sals??? Surely the pumpkin is in the same place as the leaf sprung front sals (or did LR do what they did with the rear sals and keep one axle shaft the same length)? You will have to check on the clearance between the track rod (when front mounted) and the pumpkin - if that is too much of a problem then a springover will be the only way.aloharover said:Thanks,
I do have a lhd and rhd swivel housings, got lucky when I got the salisbury, guy had both.
I am working on the steering issues.
Was mostly worried about the perches. With the sals pumpkin, the perches under the axle look like they will loose some of my lift.