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I'm looking at replacing all the springs under my 4Runner.

Current setup:
Front: 85 4Runner rear springs with a Mazda spring inserted. 2.5" front drop hanger with shackle hanger mounted under the frame.
The front springs sit almost flat and flex very well but they are just too soft for my tastes. Not the best handeling characteristics on the road even with the shocks set of 4 or 5.

Rear: Mazda rear springs with 2 Dodge Dakota springs mixed in. These springs sit almost flat and flex like crazy but again they are just too soft. A 2.5" block is used to get the lift needed and a track bar is also used stop axle wrap.

The whole system works well but i'm looking for some springs that provide a firmer (more stable) ride on the street and while still flexing well on the trail. I'm also looking to reduce the front drop hanger to 1 inch or so.

I've heard of rancho 44044's, YJ springs, and All-Pro's. I'm leaning towards the All-Pro springs because they seem to have a good reputation and i won't need to do any real modification to get them to fit.

The 44044's are popular but i heard they were very soft. Any opinions?

What about the YJ springs? I haven't really heard about much about those. Any Ideas?

TIA

[ 08-26-2001: Message edited by: EricZ ]
 

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One double posting makes you look like an idiot.
I run all pro rears and they flex well and are a well built spring pack. I run stock waggs in front and they ride well and are the same height with a 1.75 drophanger. I say either allpro or some combo. alot say the 44044's get alot of lift in em too....
 

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Originally posted by Skyetone:
<STRONG>One double posting makes you look like an idiot.</STRONG>
I don't know why it double posted but I already deleted one!
 

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Eric, I've got 2 sets of stock yj springs if you want em. They are 45-46in centered pin.

I'e heard they are good for 1.5-2.5" lift up front. You could mix and match the 2 packs together....
 

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Originally posted by ScottD:
<STRONG>Eric, I've got 2 sets of stock yj springs if you want em. They are 45-46in centered pin.

I'e heard they are good for 1.5-2.5" lift up front. You could mix and match the 2 packs together....</STRONG>

What are the springs width? 2.5" or ?.
I'm interested but i think i'm leaning towards All-Pros springs. I've mixed and matched all my springs and it is wearing me out. The only problem i have with All Pro's is they are so expensive!

Hey Scott,
I broke my first <IMG SRC="smilies/mad.gif" border="0"> birfield yesterday!!
Luckily i had just picked up some spares a couple weeks earlier! It went POP in a big way. Later!
 

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You should tough it out with the springs and use the $ for 4 to 1 gears. <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">
So, how much trouble did you get in?
 

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44044's, cant beat them. Got about 6.5" of lift out of them with a 1.5" drop hanger. Flex like crazy, only $235 or so from 4WPH.
For the price and performance, I dont see why there is a debate? <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by GRABBER:
<STRONG>44044's, cant beat them. Got about 6.5" of lift out of them with a 1.5" drop hanger. Flex like crazy, only $235 or so from 4WPH.
For the price and performance, I dont see why there is a debate? <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
I have heard that they are too <IMG SRC="smilies/jeep1.gif" border="0"> soft!. What's your opinion?
 

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Originally posted by JackA:
<STRONG>So, how much trouble did you get in?</STRONG>
Not bad at all. I swear i've got the coolest wife in the world (except she want's me to sell my 4Runner so we can buy a newer Landcruiser). I'm actually contemplating it!!!
 

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Originally posted by GRABBER:
<STRONG>Oh yeah, chevy's in the rear. $80 at a wrecker, flex is mad, and no tracktion bar. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
Yea but you've gotta relocate the front spring mount like 11" forward and you have to run a 3 to 4" block. I don't want any blocks.
Are you running blocks in the rear? How tall are your blocks?
 

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Originally posted by Rokcrawla:
<STRONG>i run yj springs and i love them</STRONG>
How much lift did they give you?
How long are they?
Do you have a drop front hanger? If so how much drop?
How long are your shackles?
Are they mounted under the frame or through the frame?

I'm lookin for a 4.5 to 5" lift spring!
 

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The 44044's, I don't think they are too soft. But I just got done with my SAS, and havent had them on long. They are a 6 leaf pack. As for the chevy's I've got them sitting in my garage waiting to be put on, I have a 92' so I'm trying to figure out where to put the mount. I'm going to run a 3" block, I forsee no problems because of how long the chevy's are; there should be very little axle wrap. I know several people running this setup and it's awsome. <IMG SRC="smilies/beer.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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Originally posted by EricZ:
<STRONG>How much lift did they give you?
How long are they?
Do you have a drop front hanger? If so how much drop?
How long are your shackles?
Are they mounted under the frame or through the frame?

I'm lookin for a 4.5 to 5" lift spring!</STRONG>
mine are the procomp 4" rears, they give me about 7 inches as near as i can figure, but they make like a 2 and a half or something that should be about right for you and probably softer too. My shackles are the standard lift shackles you can buy (i forgot the length) as for the length, i think they are 1/2 shorter, but im not sure. They bolt right on very easy install, all you need to do is flip the centerpin. and they are mounted through the frame just like stock, and no dropped front hanger
 
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